Illinois vs Oregon, Saturday, October 24th, 2:00pm CT, BTN

#126      
Ill... INI 27
Big game. I like Brett has two weeks to reorganize and focus defense and qb room.
Hopefully a win can allow team some confidence and get things trending upward.
6 wins or better would be tremendous in having Bowl game Illini's floor after 2 very good seasons and great sell for portal defenders and financial BACKERS (nil).
Not expecting said results, but hopeful. Longtime fan so a bit used to the ole cup check in regards to Illini football.
 
#127      
therealmiket86
Ill... INI 27 said:
Big game. I like Brett has two weeks to reorganize and focus defense and qb room.
Hopefully a win can allow team some confidence and get things trending upward.
6 wins or better would be tremendous in having Bowl game Illini's floor after 2 very good seasons and great sell for portal defenders and financial BACKERS (nil).
Not expecting said results, but hopeful. Longtime fan so a bit used to the ole cup check in regards to Illini football.
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The 2 weeks didn’t help us get ready for Washington last year
 
#128      
Ill... INI 27
therealmiket86 said:
The 2 weeks didn’t help us get ready for Washington last year
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Illini Also were not integrating a new qb and DC. Both of which I alluded to in my post. Maybe Brett learned something from last seasons bye week and following let down.
But Illini getting blown out even during best seasons is not too unusual. 83 Rose Bowl and last season Whoosier debacle come too mind
Always time to be negative.

Personally I hope for a stellar performance and rallying of the Illini.
 
#129      
Retro62
therealmiket86 said:
The 2 weeks didn’t help us get ready for Washington last year
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#131      
kyillinifan
I still wonder if there will be a package for Chase to do a change up. I believe our TE are going to have to big Saturday. Looks like Stewart was picked up for DUI. He is their #1 WR. We have to play the best def we have played in the last two years. Go Illini!
 
#135      
BalloonsTheElephant
ChiefGritty said:
One of the great football truisms: if you have two quarterbacks, you have none
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Agreed in most cases. In this case, you have two distinctly different skill sets both trying to solidify their roster spot for next year. In college, in this situation, it works. It's not like you have Manning and Brady fighting for snaps on the same team.
 
#136      
Oracle21
Oregon’s offense has looked really bad the last 2 weeks but a lot of that is because UCLA and Nebraska have excellent defenses. Their offense was very good against USC with Raiola and Moore both playing.

Assuming Raiola plays I think Oregon wins this pretty easily. Their fast defense vs a rookie QB is a matchup I don’t like. And I just think their offense will look more like it did vs USC than it did last 2 weeks.

I’d be all over Oregon at -8.5. I think Oregon wins 31-13. Something like that
 
#137      
mhuml32
Oracle21 said:
Oregon’s offense has looked really bad the last 2 weeks but a lot of that is because UCLA and Nebraska have excellent defenses. Their offense was very good against USC with Raiola and Moore both playing.

Assuming Raiola plays I think Oregon wins this pretty easily. Their fast defense vs a rookie QB is a matchup I don’t like. And I just think their offense will look more like it did vs USC than it did last 2 weeks.

I’d be all over Oregon at -8.5. I think Oregon wins 31-13. Something like that
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Your thought process is sound but the spread going down is possibly because sharps or insiders know that several suspensions are coming before this game. If you lose Stewart, two offensive lineman, a starting safety, and a rotational defensive line player, it's going to shrink Oregon's margin. Plus, we still do not know if Moore is going to play and, if he does play, how he will perform. There probably is value on Oregon's alt-line....but there also might be value on Illinois ML.
 
#138      
88_ILLINI
Red77sng said:
No
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I totally agree. We simply don't have the athletes in the front 7 or the speed in the defensive backfield to stay with Oregon offense. Their 2nd team would run over us. I expect only 1 stop by our D the entire game.
 
#139      
bluemountain
Oracle21 said:
Oregon’s offense has looked really bad the last 2 weeks but a lot of that is because UCLA and Nebraska have excellent defenses. Their offense was very good against USC with Raiola and Moore both playing.

Assuming Raiola plays I think Oregon wins this pretty easily. Their fast defense vs a rookie QB is a matchup I don’t like. And I just think their offense will look more like it did vs USC than it did last 2 weeks.

I’d be all over Oregon at -8.5. I think Oregon wins 31-13. Something like that
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Yeah, if Oregon sticks with Raiola this could be a 52-7 type bloodbath. This is just a really bad matchup for us, particularly with an inexperienced QB and a shaky O-Line
 
#140      
cfp32
kyillinifan said:
I still wonder if there will be a package for Chase to do a change up. I believe our TE are going to have to big Saturday. Looks like Stewart was picked up for DUI. He is their #1 WR. We have to play the best def we have played in the last two years. Go Illini!
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Chase?
 
#141      
88_ILLINI
Oracle21 said:
Oregon’s offense has looked really bad the last 2 weeks but a lot of that is because UCLA and Nebraska have excellent defenses. Their offense was very good against USC with Raiola and Moore both playing.

Assuming Raiola plays I think Oregon wins this pretty easily. Their fast defense vs a rookie QB is a matchup I don’t like. And I just think their offense will look more like it did vs USC than it did last 2 weeks.

I’d be all over Oregon at -8.5. I think Oregon wins 31-13. Something like that
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I would pick Oregon if the line was Oregon -20.5
 
#144      
gibb52
Realistically Oregon has at least a half dozen guys on offense faster than anyone we can put out there on D. We will be playing with zero margin for error.

I don't like our chances.
 
#145      
ChiefGritty
BalloonsTheElephant said:
Agreed in most cases. In this case, you have two distinctly different skill sets both trying to solidify their roster spot for next year. In college, in this situation, it works. It's not like you have Manning and Brady fighting for snaps on the same team.
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I never like swapping two different QB's on and off the field during the game. Might be our best option at this moment, but that does not speak well of our options.

We'll see. I have no doubt Barry Lunney is going to be scraping the fabric at the bottom of his bag in this one.
 
#147      
Mr. Tibbs
ChiefGritty said:
I never like swapping two different QB's on and off the field during the game. Might be our best option at this moment, but that does not speak well of our options.
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swapping QB's during the game is equally difficult for both teams to deal with . Its hardly ideal.

Wasnt there a B1G team that tried doing that for a game or two in the last 15 years ?
 
#148      
aaeismacgychel
mhuml32 said:
Your thought process is sound but the spread going down is possibly because sharps or insiders know that several suspensions are coming before this game. If you lose Stewart, two offensive lineman, a starting safety, and a rotational defensive line player, it's going to shrink Oregon's margin. Plus, we still do not know if Moore is going to play and, if he does play, how he will perform. There probably is value on Oregon's alt-line....but there also might be value on Illinois ML.
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To your point, this line is based a lot more on the shakier confidence the betting community has in Oregon rather than burgeoning belief in us. Even down multiple starters and on the road, going up against a freshman backup QB and a defensive that just does not have the requisite talent or speed in the front 7 to effectively pressure Oregon or disrupt their offense, this should be an automatic cash money game for them.

If Oregon shows up or rallies around the team, they will likely win by several touchdowns. But if they show up as a completely fractured team who are focused on their off-field issues and have already thrown the towel in, and we have a fast start, sure there’s a punchers chance there. That said this seems more like a get right game for Oregon than anything. I’d personally be surprised if we are within 20pts of them at the final whistle, but that’s why we play the games and I’d love to be surprised. But yeah, unless Oregon completely implodes, I have a very hard time seeing it happening.
 
#149      
ChiefGritty
Mr. Tibbs said:
swapping QB's during the game is equally difficult for both teams to deal with . Its hardly ideal.

Wasnt there a B1G team that tried doing that for a game or two in the last 15 years ?
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The only truly successful version of that I think I've ever seen in terms of elite level success was Chris Leak and freshman Tim Tebow at Florida winning a national title.

With a team that couldn't kick a field goal to save their lives either, they defied all sorts of conventional wisdom about winning football.

(Maybe an evolutionary team on fourth down strategy, now that I think about it :unsure:)
 
#150      
bluemountain
Mr. Tibbs said:
swapping QB's during the game is equally difficult for both teams to deal with . Its hardly ideal.

Wasnt there a B1G team that tried doing that for a game or two in the last 15 years ?
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I'm showing my age, but I remember a game in which the Cowboys swapped Craig Morton and Roger Staubach every play at QB back in the early 70's against the Bears. The Bears won, thanks in large part to that poorly conceived experiment.
 
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