Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
Or one of those hugs you give your cousin that keeps hitting on your wife.
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Or one of those hugs you give your cousin that keeps hitting on your wife.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
That's where I'm at. I won't be devastated if he's hired but any excitement that his potential hire had is long gone
MrOizo
- Chicago
I'm with this. I'm not on the Cuonzo bandwagon, I just believe it is clearly better than what we have and that it could be much worse. It's a much, much better decision than the Groce hire was. That's not the bar, of course.
I could be much more excited by some other moves being talked about, but I'm also averse to getting my hopes up in some "Lord Van Gundy" style scenario. If we end up with Keatts or Cuonzo, I'll be good. If we shoot higher and bag a "Lovie", I'm great. If we stay with the current situation, I might lose my mind.
I hate this thought. You don't trick recruits into coming here for a coach that's going to get fired. I want kids coming here for the right reasons.
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
Probably on the phone.
Bryce Drew pleasssse. Would have been such an obvious hire last year. Why oh why did we have to wait.
I think his brother is a better possibility, but I wouldn't mind either.
Talk about looking disorganized, that was Cal the last 5 minutes today.
I agree with all of these great questions for ALL CANDIDATES:
I really like coaches who are willing to change up their defense during the games - M2M to zones to half court traps, etc. Some teams (including our own team) really struggle to adjust. Why allow other teams to comfortably run the same crap against you all game?
ALSO from an X and O/style of play perspective:
- What teams are physical, rebound well, overplay passing lanes, and contest every shot relentlessly?
- What teams run tight, well-organized stuff offensively yet they seem to play carefree down the stretch- constantly attacking - pushing transition even after made baskets?
- What teams out there consistently get quality open shots/layups in the half court offense and have a high assist/basket rate?
- What teams run solid out of bounds scoring plays and get quality shots after timeouts?
- What teams consistently blowout bad or average teams? What coaches' teams out there consistently play big in "Big Games" or do they play to their competition?
- Does the coach recruit players to their system or do they just recruit players based on need and ability?
Sizing up the candidates with these questions can help answer some of these X and O/style of play concerns, etc.
This escaped me then and escapes me now.
Illinois will not hire a coach with any NCAA issues - present or historical.
This means, amongst other non-sensical candidates mentioned here, that Larry Brown, Scott Drew, Randy Ayers, etc. will never, ever be employed at Illinois.
The BoT didn't even want to hire Rick George (back when they could have) because he gave Hart Lee Dykes $100 like 30 years ago.
So just maybe, just maybe there was something to that NetJet from SAT to PHX on February 15th.
Please tell us what that something is! It has been such a long day and I could use a little hope
MrOizo
- Chicago
Has this ever worked? Not attacking, just curious if this has ever brought more than a single season of success...
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illynifan34
That's a winner!!
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Do you want to do that because it worked so well with Zook?
Cal averaged 45 points in their last games. No thank you. I'd rather have Groce back if Cuonzo is the best we can do. Hopefully JW has an ace up his sleeve and can pull in someone who can turn this all around.
I like that it's the worst season for mid-majors just about ever with the American, A10, Missouri Valley, CUSA, WCC, Mountain West and everyone else likely to combine for only 4 at large bids tops and it happens to be the year we're looking for a coach.
There also aren't many other major-conference programs looking for a coach. Some more may pop up, but Illinois and NC State and...? Not too many high profile jobs open this year.
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This. And this is why I think Groce will be back.
IlliniInOK
- no longer in OK! Centralia, IL
You can't keep Groce. You can take a swing on someone and hope he might be the guy, but you've aleady established that Groce is not the guy.
I'd be ok with Cuonzo because he hasn't proven he can't do it at Illinois, and he has had more success in bigger conferences than Groce had prior to coming here.
My hope though is that we do better than Cuonzo.
I'd be ok with Cuonzo because he hasn't proven he can't do it at Illinois, and he has had more success in bigger conferences than Groce had prior to coming here.
My hope though is that we do better than Cuonzo.
Serious Late
- Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
Rather than rehash thoughts, I feel like my comments from a while back still hold water. Swap out Hoiberg for Monty Williams? Archie is a tough pull, but I still don't think Krystkowiak is getting enough chatter on here. His hype train should be the lead locomotive if Miller is unattainable...
Glad the Cuonzo Martin propaganda machine has slowed it's roll, but disappointed to read it still exists at all.
SMU blowing out Memphis with 14 assists on 16 made baskets. Just sayin' ...
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