You don't develop a relationship like the one Whitman has with Ron Turner in 10 months.
The only relationship Whitman has like that that's at all related to the basketball world is - gird your loins - Ron Guenther.
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You don't develop a relationship like the one Whitman has with Ron Turner in 10 months.
The only relationship Whitman has like that that's at all related to the basketball world is - gird your loins - Ron Guenther.
I'm not convinced Whitman will need a middle man for this hire. It seems like he's interested in Keatts (I thought as a plan B but maybe not?) and Archie, for sure. I still believe Cuonzo is in the mix, but I wonder if he's a plan B, too.
I don't buy the Monty Williams talk because I've seen nothing about Williams and Illinois on any social media, and I haven't even seen any reference to him wanting a college job by any reputable writers.
That's the thing with NBA coaches. There's no way to know whether they'd even entertain the notion.
Monty Williams might be very committed to getting another NBA head coaching job, and there's no reason to think he couldn't do it.
And that's what I'm thinking: he's not in consideration at all. I'll believe it when I see some articles discussing him looking for a college job.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
Forget about Larry Brown, why wouldn't an AD want to leverage an alumni who has contacts throughout the NBA and has been associated with the sport for nearly 60 years? Why wouldn't an AD pick that person's brain and get their thoughts and recommendations?
Archie - I really believe he will leave Dayton - he's the man we want
But then again, if you're being completeist, it's worth at least perusing the NBA marketplace for potential fits.
I made a long list of football coaching candidates a couple years ago on another board. Lovie was on there. So were like Rex Ryan and Doug Marrone and Leslie Frazier and a bunch of weird people. You never know.
I would love it if Mizzou hired Romar. Terrible coach!
BananaShampoo
Captain 'Paign
- Phoenix, AZ
Yes. Cuonzo's style may not be pretty to watch (has Groce's been?), but he's a definite upgrade in X's and O's over Groce. He can recruit at at least the same level, also. He'd be a definite upgrade with less downside risk than many of the candidates being discussed as he has proven his teams will compete at a high level at multiple P5 stops. My only question is his ceiling, and how that compares to other B1G coaches. I think he'd be a middle of the pack X's and O's guy compared to the B1G coaching fraternity (I'd rank Groce close to last). Probably slightly behind Painter and ahead of Miles. That's not a bad place to be with the recruiting advantages he'd have here, but I'm not sure he's the guy who gets us to B1G championships and Top 3 seeds again. I do think he'd at least make us a very consistent tourney team again with potential for some Sweet 16s and the occasional Elite 8 run.
Keatts is actually the riskier play as his recruiting chops and program management skills are unknown at the P5 level, but IF he has what it takes for that, his potential ceiling is the sky.
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I wouldnt. Sure they'd be terrible but he'd steal a boatload of recruits from us.
If you're one of Romar's guys, it doesn't matter whether you're in Seattle or St. Louis or Shanghai, you're gonna end up with Romar.
That guy is best friends since the 70's with the whole family of some 5-star recruit every single year. I don't know how he does it.
BananaShampoo
Captain 'Paign
- Phoenix, AZ
Time travel is the answer. He goes back in time to woo the mothers of 5-star recruits. He's probably most of their fathers. :thumb:
I agree on Monty Williams, with the fact that he lost his wife in a tragic auto accident about a year ago and is a single Dad to 5 kids, I'm not sure he wants to disrupt things and get involved in a high time required BT coaching job.
He's made very clear he wants to coach again as he believes his wife would want him to continue his career ambitions (which I'm sure is true). He took the Olympic gig since that happened.
Now, is college the right situation for his family? I dunno, you could make arguments either way. The NBA is not the world's most family-friendly lifestyle on a number of levels.
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
Two things that I feel REALLY confident about:
- if Cuonzo isn't our coach, he'll be Mizzou's coach
- if he's Mizzou's coach, he's taking Tilmon
Agree on #1. Why so confident in #2?
If relationships are so important, why would he go to some brand new school to play for a coach he doesn't know?
I feel like SLU would hire Jamall Walker and that would be the destination.
Allen Iverson.
At least we wouldn't get the "practice all stars" excuse when Tate plays 30 mins a game
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
Martin also knows Walker pretty well.
Alumni website shows no mention of an alumni event in Naples, FL in January.
Hmm. Tricky.
Still, my interest level in hiring a coach with 0.00001% chance less of long term success as an effort to keep Tilmon is zero.
I am not so naive as to believe that the Tilmon factor is not interactive with long term prospects for success, but still.
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
Oh, I'm with you 100%. Just putting it out there.
I would be way less upset about losing Tilmon than I would about Mizzou returning to competence and becoming a more credible player in and around St. Louis (and probably Chicago).
Are we 1000% sure they aren't just going to bite the Romar bullet to get Porter? Desperation is a hell of a drug.
I'm actually surprised there aren't more people proposing Romar for us. Does this board realize we would have the #2 player in the class on our team next year if we hired Lorenzo Romar? And a Top 50 player in 2018, Porter's brother?
Maybe I should keep that quiet.
Allen Iverson.
Ubben would be collecting a lot of dust. We'd never practice lol.
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