White Sox playing themselves out of a top three pick?
Good to see young guys improving, playing well. Hope for the future.
Good to see young guys improving, playing well. Hope for the future.
2017 White Sox
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
I've wanted them to get the top pick. I wont try any pretend like I didn't. but picking in the top 3-4 will get them a really good prospect still. Add that into the talent coming up and its still a good thing. I actually think they can get Beer at 3 or 4th pick. And we all know we want to see Beer and Burger going back to back.
We're still light years away, but it sounds like scouts are split on whether Beer is a top of the board guy or late 1st/early 2nd. He's going to mash, but he might not play a premium position. Seems like we've got a lot of those guys on the farm already.
And yeah, I don't think there's much separating the top 5 picks unless we're talking about a Harper/Greene type.
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
Speaking of, found this on the Sox subreddit:
Attachments
Only half joking about winning your way out of top three pick.
One one hand, if you are going to rebuild, and going to be bad, may as well be bad enough for a top three pick.
On the other hand, you want your young guys to perform, learn how to win, never give up, etc. it seems they are doing that. Liking what I see out of Giolito. Liking what I see from Moncado, except for strike outs. Delmonico is a nice surprise. Hope Anderson can continue to improve. Lopez seems to be learning on the job, but I'm fine with that.
Future is bright. Hopefully add some more pieces through the draft, a combination of a couple years away guys (i.e. College guys or superstar high school) , supplemented with longer term guys to keep the pipeline going. A tough balance, but that's why they pay Rick Hahn the big bucks.
One one hand, if you are going to rebuild, and going to be bad, may as well be bad enough for a top three pick.
On the other hand, you want your young guys to perform, learn how to win, never give up, etc. it seems they are doing that. Liking what I see out of Giolito. Liking what I see from Moncado, except for strike outs. Delmonico is a nice surprise. Hope Anderson can continue to improve. Lopez seems to be learning on the job, but I'm fine with that.
Future is bright. Hopefully add some more pieces through the draft, a combination of a couple years away guys (i.e. College guys or superstar high school) , supplemented with longer term guys to keep the pipeline going. A tough balance, but that's why they pay Rick Hahn the big bucks.
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
Good read if you want to try and have any good feelings about Shields next season...
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-on-the-fly-reinvention-of-james-shields/
Also, the Rodon injury/surgery is what scares the hell out of me and the Sox current rebuild. Pitcher heavy at the top with our prospects. It was just 2 years ago and the Mets rotation was set to be the best in baseball for the next 5-7 years right?
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-on-the-fly-reinvention-of-james-shields/
Also, the Rodon injury/surgery is what scares the hell out of me and the Sox current rebuild. Pitcher heavy at the top with our prospects. It was just 2 years ago and the Mets rotation was set to be the best in baseball for the next 5-7 years right?
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
Ditto.
Copy/pasting a redditor's summary of Hahn interview yesterday:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/10/03/rick-hahn-white-sox-rebuild-ahead-schedule-kopech/
I had a feeling this would happen to him. He would always start the season hot and cool off down the stretch. Additionally, he always tended to overthrow during "big" starts and totally suck.
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
There were rumors that Sox would flip him immediately to Yankees or Red Sox (since Orioles don't want to deal to division rival), but Bob Nightengale reporting that Machado would be kept:
https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/941294919615950848
They would have to flip him. Machado claims he won't sign an extension with the club he is traded to. If we really wanted him we can sign him after this season.
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
These rumors have left me scratching my head trying to figure out the plan. I only see 2 reasons the Sox make a move, and both have been posted in here. They know they have a deal to flip him to a team in the O's division...Or the Sox have been in talks with Manny's agent and feel they have deal that can be made to extend him in that 72 hour window.
With regards to the O's not wanting to deal within the division...I have always thought this was an out of date way of looking at things. Felt the same way with the Sox last season with a Sale deal. If the plan is to get better with prospects, make a deal to the team that makes you the best offer.
With regards to the O's not wanting to deal within the division...I have always thought this was an out of date way of looking at things. Felt the same way with the Sox last season with a Sale deal. If the plan is to get better with prospects, make a deal to the team that makes you the best offer.
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
There's no doubt the Sox covet Machado. That said, can't see Hahn pulling the trigger without assurances that Machado will extend, provided the offer is adequate. Reinsdorf is going to have to back up the truck.
Fornelli floated this hypothetical, and it checks out for me...
Baltimore FO leaks that White Sox made the best of the dozen offers they got, but will head back home without making a deal to discuss any impending moves. Given that the Sox have arguably the best assets to make a deal (outside the Yankees, who the owner might not sign off dealing with), this ostensibly raises the bar for any other offer thereafter.
I don't think it happens, but Rosenthal saying one of Giolito or Kopech would be packaged in the offer gives me serious, serious pause. If we were close to contending in 2018, maybe...
Baltimore FO leaks that White Sox made the best of the dozen offers they got, but will head back home without making a deal to discuss any impending moves. Given that the Sox have arguably the best assets to make a deal (outside the Yankees, who the owner might not sign off dealing with), this ostensibly raises the bar for any other offer thereafter.
I don't think it happens, but Rosenthal saying one of Giolito or Kopech would be packaged in the offer gives me serious, serious pause. If we were close to contending in 2018, maybe...
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
For sure, this was seriously the most enjoyable season I can recall in a while. :thumb:
Agreed, play the long game.
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
Some conflicting reports with this new Nightingale article. I don't know what to believe.