3/22 Games Thread

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They can't control quality of the games.
But they can control how they distribute those games, which is the point. There are two women's games on right now. And there are about to be two more within the next hour. ESPN is showing how you organize your games for maximum impact. And that's why I'm watching Paige Bueckers right now and will focus on the women's tourney most of the afternoon.
 
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But they can control how they distribute those games, which is the point. There are two women's games on right now. And there are about to be two more within the next hour. ESPN is showing how you organize your games for maximum impact. And that's why I'm watching Paige Bueckers right now and will focus on the women's tourney most of the afternoon.
To be fair, the women's tourney is still in the 1st Round, so there's more games.
 
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But they can control how they distribute those games, which is the point. There are two women's games on right now. And there are about to be two more within the next hour. ESPN is showing how you organize your games for maximum impact. And that's why I'm watching Paige Bueckers and will focus on the women's tourney most of the afternoon.

Right but the women's tournament is still in the 1st round. Easier to distribute the games when there's more to play.
 
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And it's trash.
They can't control quality of the games.
True, but they could play two games staggered by one 20 min half and the duration of dreck could possibly be reduced by up to 50%.

It's ludicrous that East coast-based games are tipping at close to 10 p.m. Eastern Time for four consecutive days. No wonder Barkley's asleep on the set in NYC by 10:45 p.m. and has no idea what's going on.
 
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Look at the distribution of games tonight. There's content. Yes, obviously the women's tourney has more games right now, but unlike the men's tourney, they aren't concentrating their games all at night. Look man, I totally understand why we are here. I'm not dumb. Cable is dying. These channels desperately need content. Live sports are one of the only reliable things that get some ratings. Ad revenue is higher at night. But man, it sucks. It just inarguably sucks. "Well actually"ing this doesn't make it suck any less.
 
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True, but they could play two games staggered by one 20 min half and the duration of dreck could possibly be reduced by up to 50%.

It's ludicrous that East coast-based games are tipping at close to 10 p.m. Eastern Time for four consecutive days. No wonder Barkley's asleep on the set in NYC by 10:45 p.m. and has no idea what's going on.

In an ideal world yes, but they have to get so many of these games on the Turner networks too. It's not like with the women's tournament where ESPN can just spread it to 3 or 4 (or even 5 if you want to include ABC) channels.

One of the things that surprised me last season was when they had the games in Salt Lake City in the early slot on the weekend as that would have been a 10:00 AM local time for the teams playing that first game.
 
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Some people are saying it's making this tourney boring with no cinderellas and lots of blowouts. I think it sets us up to see a bunch of very high level games this weekend and next. Lots of times a low seed advancing just ends up being a blowout in the round of 32 or sweet 16. McNeese against Purdue right now is a good example.

On paper every single game after this Purdue game is a banger. Could be a really special day.
 
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Look at the distribution of games tonight. There's content. Yes, obviously the women's tourney has more games right now, but unlike the men's tourney, they aren't concentrating their games all at night. Look man, I totally understand why we are here. I'm not dumb. Cable is dying. These channels desperately need content. Live sports are one of the only reliable things that get some ratings. Ad revenue is higher at night. But man, it sucks. It just inarguably sucks. "Well actually"ing this doesn't make it suck any less.
In an ideal world yes, but they have to get so many of these games on the Turner networks too. It's not like with the women's tournament where ESPN can just spread it to 3 or 4 (or even 5 if you want to include ABC) channels.

One of the things that surprised me last season was when they had the games in Salt Lake City in the early slot on the weekend as that would have been a 10:00 AM local time for the teams playing that first game.
I get it. I get the revenue imperative but, as my DC brother notes, it sucks. I'm watching only opportunistically today if, as I'm working, I see an exciting game already in the second half. Then I'll take a break and go downstairs. Thank goodness we tip at 5:15 DC time tomorrow. Last night kinda wrecked me, cause I'm elderly. ;)
 
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What was the double tech in McNeese about? Missed it? Purdue made five of the six free throws they got.
 
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Some people are saying it's making this tourney boring with no cinderellas and lots of blowouts. I think it sets us up to see a bunch of very high level games this weekend and next. Lots of times a low seed advancing just ends up being a blowout in the round of 32 or sweet 16. McNeese against Purdue right now is a good example.

On paper every single game after this Purdue game is a banger. Could be a really special day.
I think this was the most boring first round I can ever remember.

I looked this all up 2 years ago, and don't want to do it again, but going back around 40 years, over 70% of the time a 1 seed wins the tourney. It is in the mid 90%s that a top 4 seed wins. So is it always the best team that wins the tourney, no. But it almost always is a legit team that people felt could win it all.

So given that a worthy team almost always wins, those wild upsets are what make the tournament so much fun. The whole nation flipping over to watch that 15 seed try to hang on to a 3 pt lead against the 2. It's fun.

This year you had two 10 seeds beat the 7, those are pretty close to tossups. Two 9s beat the 8s, those are definite tossups. Other than that you had two 12s and one 11 wins. And those were the lower seeds that everyone expected to win. And to make it even worse, they weren't really close games with any last second heroics.

Some certainly love seeing the better team win so you don't get those teams that luck into an easy path to the Sweet 16 or even the Elite 8. But going back to what I started with, given a legit team typically wins, the crazy is what draws people to the tourney. It's what makes it worth taking off work for, or ignoring work.

To me, I don't think we're going to go back to the fun days because of the transfer portal. Every mid-major player that performs at a high level will be instantly snatched up by a power 5 team. It's not a coincidence that the coach of every team that won a non tossup upset will have a job at a P5 school next year. Great coaches can steal a game, maybe 2, but the days of your brackets being utter garbage after day 1 are going away.
 
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I'd prefer not to pretend women's college basketball is some sort of equal to men's college basketball.

They are no more equal than boys high school basketball is to Big Ten Basketball.
 
#41      
It seems like the post-COVID transfer rules (where transfers don't have to sit for a year) have hurt the mid-majors and the non-Duke ACC teams. Not as many upsets as there were before 2020.
 
#44      
I'd prefer not to pretend women's college basketball is some sort of equal to men's college basketball.

They are no more equal than boys high school basketball is to Big Ten Basketball.
The same reason there were comments about women's basketball being scheduled today as well, and that should satiate our desire to watch basketball.
Yeah, not sorry for mentioning women's basketball. If you don't care about it, that's fine.
 
#46      
Look at the distribution of games tonight. There's content. Yes, obviously the women's tourney has more games right now, but unlike the men's tourney, they aren't concentrating their games all at night. Look man, I totally understand why we are here. I'm not dumb. Cable is dying. These channels desperately need content. Live sports are one of the only reliable things that get some ratings. Ad revenue is higher at night. But man, it sucks. It just inarguably sucks. "Well actually"ing this doesn't make it suck any less.
You made a good point... if they spaced out the men's games today, everyone could go back to completely ignoring truTV
 
#47      
So on one hand, I want Calipari to lose.
On the other hand, I want Pitino to lose.
Still on another hand, I want the SEC team to lose.
And on the other another hand, I want the best Big East team to lose.
I guess on my last hand, I just want it to be entertaining and be happy that at least one of them gets to lose.
 
#48      
Watching Stephen vs Ark. Tomi brother just is not as good as Tomi. I wonder if Ark coaches are not using him correctly. Tomi had a great game last night.
 
#49      
Arkansas and St John’s, really good game. We got the better of the two brothers, but, man, they are both skinny

Bench press 80, maybe 100#
 
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I'd prefer not to pretend women's college basketball is some sort of equal to men's college basketball.

They are no more equal than boys high school basketball is to Big Ten Basketball.
Different sport. It’s like negging on MLS soccer because it’s not as good as Europe.

Which some soccer snobs definitely do.
 
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