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Adam Miller named B1G Co-Freshman of the Week
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- Chicago
Nice honor. Congrats, Adam!
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
Nice to see
Won't be the last time, either
Won't be the last time, either
Both Adam and Zach had excellent starts to their seasons and both look poised to be key players for their respective teams. I totally understand the desire to honor both of them with the Co-Freshmen of the Week. However, I have to think that Adam had the overall better performance and would have been the pick if they had to just pick 1 player to award. I actually think it's a little weird that they are splitting the award since I think Adam so clearly outshined Zach this week. Even if they took Kofi off our roster, I still think I'd rather have Adam Miller than Zach Edey wearing the Orange and Blue.
Adam Miller: 18.0 PTS, 2.3 REB, 1.0 AST, 0.0 BLK, 0.3 STL, 1.3 PF, 2.0 TO, 28.0 MIN
Zach Edey--: 18.0 PTS, 6.5 REB, 0.0 AST, 1.0 BLK, 0.0 STL, 3.0 PF, 3.0 TO, 18.5 MIN
As a 6'-3" SG, Adam demonstrated the ability to score from all 3 levels (in the lane, mid range, and from deep). He committed 0 Fouls in 27 min, 1 in 33 min, and 3 in 24 minutes while playing good defense. He committed 2 turnovers in each of his 3 games which is definitely something he'll have to work on, but considering the number of touches he had it easily could have been a lot worse. At the end of the day Adam Miller was a key piece to all 3 of Illinois' victories.
On the other hand... Zach is 7'-4" and both Liberty and Clemson are undersized. Liberty matched him up against 6'-7" Kyle Rode (27 minutes) and 6'-9 Blake Preston (13 minutes) while Clemson matched him up against 6'-8" Aamir Simms (27 minutes) and 6'-10" PJ Hall/Lynn Kidd (combined 10 minutes). So while he did score 19 and 17 points, it's important to remember that he's 8 to 9 inches taller than his opponents so you're left wondering why he isn't able stay on the floor longer and rack up more points - the answer is that he turns the ball over if he's more than 2 feet from the rim and commits silly fouls on defense. Zach scored a few layups but he was consistently the last one down the floor on both offense and defense and can't be trusted to touch the ball. There was a noticeable difference in how ready these players are for B10 play and Adam Miller was clearly the better player.
Adam Miller: 18.0 PTS, 2.3 REB, 1.0 AST, 0.0 BLK, 0.3 STL, 1.3 PF, 2.0 TO, 28.0 MIN
Zach Edey--: 18.0 PTS, 6.5 REB, 0.0 AST, 1.0 BLK, 0.0 STL, 3.0 PF, 3.0 TO, 18.5 MIN
As a 6'-3" SG, Adam demonstrated the ability to score from all 3 levels (in the lane, mid range, and from deep). He committed 0 Fouls in 27 min, 1 in 33 min, and 3 in 24 minutes while playing good defense. He committed 2 turnovers in each of his 3 games which is definitely something he'll have to work on, but considering the number of touches he had it easily could have been a lot worse. At the end of the day Adam Miller was a key piece to all 3 of Illinois' victories.
On the other hand... Zach is 7'-4" and both Liberty and Clemson are undersized. Liberty matched him up against 6'-7" Kyle Rode (27 minutes) and 6'-9 Blake Preston (13 minutes) while Clemson matched him up against 6'-8" Aamir Simms (27 minutes) and 6'-10" PJ Hall/Lynn Kidd (combined 10 minutes). So while he did score 19 and 17 points, it's important to remember that he's 8 to 9 inches taller than his opponents so you're left wondering why he isn't able stay on the floor longer and rack up more points - the answer is that he turns the ball over if he's more than 2 feet from the rim and commits silly fouls on defense. Zach scored a few layups but he was consistently the last one down the floor on both offense and defense and can't be trusted to touch the ball. There was a noticeable difference in how ready these players are for B10 play and Adam Miller was clearly the better player.
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I think you're running some mental gymnastics here. You can't "penalize" Edey for being 7"4. He is what he is and he was dominant in scant minutes. I'd probably pick Edey for FOW but saying Adam "so clearly outshined him" is...well... something I'd expect to read on an ILL forum! Let the Kool-aid flow, 'tis the season!
I'm not penalizing him for being 7'-4". I'm just pointing out that POINTS are not the only thing worth looking at. Watch the highlights from those games and you'll see Zach was consistently the last man down the floor and that the opposing team often scored before he even got there or put him in positions where he had to foul because he was late. On top of that Zach showed no ability to do anything OTHER than being tall and standing next to the rim. He couldn't move the ball even 2 feet closer without losing it. I'm just pointing out that for Zach to get to Adam's level he needs quite a bit of work.
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Is there anything worse than co- awards? Pick a single winner.
The Dave
- CA
Anything and everything from Iowa?
Why is Edey playing limited minutes? Conditioning? It looks like he may be the best player on that squad. That'll definitely benefit Edey this season, as far a FotW. While I think Miller will be great, he is the 3rd scoring option on a loaded team.
Are you saying that Adam Miller's shot is ugly? Based on the picture posted here?
I'm not going to argue that it is picture perfect, but when you watch him shoot, nothing screams "ugly" shot.
Lefties generally have a little more side rotation when they set their feet on their shots. Don't know why that is, but I've never seen a lefty as square as you see most righties. Giorgi is the first lefty of my basketball life (30 years) I would consider to have an ugly shot.
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