Andre Curbelo in the transfer portal

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Oh they were extremely cautious with him. They didn’t do anything until he got cleared by the docs. They weren’t malicious in anything they did and didn’t try and rush him back in any way. Yes the concussion played a part but so did some other factors.

The 2nd stretch of games he missed was due to covid, wasn't it? Person you were responding to seemed to think they brought him back too early and then sat him again due to the concussion, but my recollection was that he missed that 2nd stretch of games due to covid protocols.
 
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Dr Copejam

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Oh they were extremely cautious with him. They didn’t do anything until he got cleared by the docs. They weren’t malicious in anything they did and didn’t try and rush him back in any way. Yes the concussion played a part but so did some other factors.
How much did Curbelo somewhat bizarre behavior play a part with the transfer?

I love the kid, but he seemed to be a little “quirky”.
 
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The 2nd stretch of games he missed was due to covid, wasn't it? Person you were responding to seemed to think they brought him back too early and then sat him again due to the concussion, but my recollection was that he missed that 2nd stretch of games due to covid protocols.
OP was referring to him playing the first few reg season games after getting concussion in a prior exhibition game.
 
#154      

Wokker

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The 2nd stretch of games he missed was due to covid, wasn't it? Person you were responding to seemed to think they brought him back too early and then sat him again due to the concussion, but my recollection was that he missed that 2nd stretch of games due to covid protocols.
Right.

Edit: NVM 21ChampaignSt cleared things up for me.
 
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I struggle with the notion that the concussion was a big part of it. I know that's only a handful of fans but nevertheless, his first game back against Purdue was his best game of the season, at least offensively. After that, there were not many games where he looked like his old self. I could never see Andre "maturing." I think his playstyle merely comes with the Turnovers. He constantly would throw his hands up in the air or roll his eyes when he felt like a teammate wronged him. For the record, I like him a lot and wish him the best.
 
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The 2nd stretch of games he missed was due to covid, wasn't it? Person you were responding to seemed to think they brought him back too early and then sat him again due to the concussion, but my recollection was that he missed that 2nd stretch of games due to covid protocols.
Yup
 
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OP was referring to him playing the first few reg season games after getting concussion in a prior exhibition game.
He said this:

"Apparently he or no one around him realized the extent of his injuries and symptoms. Just think about it, they put him back on the court for a few games before they sat him out again"

Which I read as him thinking the 2nd stretch of games was also for the concussion. Anyway, it was just how I read it. He certainly may not have meant that.
 
#158      
Oh they were extremely cautious with him. They didn’t do anything until he got cleared by the docs. They weren’t malicious in anything they did and didn’t try and rush him back in any way. Yes the concussion played a part but so did some other factors.
Well maybe the docs missed something because Curbelo just seemed off most of the time after he came back especially after covid. He was missing shots he normally makes and loosing control of passes and the ball at a much higher rate. I don't think he ever got back to 100% control of his motor reflexes and when he walks such a fine line it had a big impact. I'm sure he was frustrated with his play as well as the coaching staff and his teammates. This probably attributed to the other issues that you alluded to.
 
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I do remember, for the first time watching him, seeing him get visibly angry on the court during the Chattanooga game... And I thought, something ain't right. I chalked it up to how physical that game was but now I'm wondering what else may have been going on behind the scenes. It stuck out because I never remembered seeing him play without a happy swagger before that moment.
Oh well, at this point, It's over and the wait begins for the rest of the dominos. .
 
#161      
Been busy at work today & i come on here & see this. Sad to see him leave. He worked on his jumper over the summer but it didnt show in games. Injury totally knocked him off course. Look for Miami to get involved. I think they were finalist 2 years ago.
Yea... will love to watch him flourish at next stop (preferably outside B10). Canes is great landing spot with great coach and team with momentum. I have my Curbelo T shirt and want him to be great wherever he goes.
 
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Well maybe the docs missed something because Curbelo just seemed off most of the time after he came back especially after covid. He was missing shots he normally makes and loosing control of passes and the ball at a much higher rate. I don't think he ever got back to 100% control of his motor reflexes and when he walks such a fine line it had a big impact. I'm sure he was frustrated with his play as well as the coaching staff and his teammates. This probably attributed to the other issues that you alluded to.
It’s funny how much wild supposition there is about Curbelo. Someone most consider an insider has mentioned more than once that Curbelo’s immaturity was the main culprit.
 
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The dude was injured and sat a huge portion of this season, then got COVID... there is no world where this season's very limited minutes should be considered indicative of his actual value. Look at the end of last season. He had cleaned up a lot (not all) of his sloppiness. He was an assist machine with a lot of really wicked, tricky drives to the basket for easy scores. There is no world where this loss isn't a big deal.
Can't like this take enough. His stats of 4.2 assists to 2.6 TO was exceptional for a freshman playing extended minutes. He was also scoring in double digits almost every game late that year and was making half his shots.
The only way his departure cannot be considered a major loss is if the concussion has permanently damaged his play in some way (and I really hope that is not the case).
 
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Can't like this take enough. His stats of 4.2 assists to 2.6 TO was exceptional for a freshman playing extended minutes. He was also scoring in double digits almost every game late that year and was making half his shots.
The only way his departure cannot be considered a major loss is if the concussion has permanently damaged his play in some way (and I really hope that is not the case).

Belo at the end of last year was scintillating but in aggregate over the last 2 years, we got more lows than highs. This team is accumulating serious talent and we need a floor general, not a floor wizard.
 
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He had talent but this year was a rough year for him. When healthy he tried to do too much and became out of control with his turnovers. Never could shoot ... shot 33 % from field this year which is awful and 17 % from 3pt for a guard which doesn't warrant lots of playing time. I think the incoming freshmen provide more than what he gave and Luke and RJ at least can shoot. He will land somewhere and maybe will have a chance to start over.
 
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It’s funny how much wild supposition there is about Curbelo. Someone most consider an insider has mentioned more than once that Curbelo’s immaturity was the main culprit.
And to think some of us were skewered for saying his body language and demeanor was "disconnected". Well, maybe there WAS something to it.

I'll miss Belo. Loved what he brought to the court, but he just needed to concentrate on playing the position. A maestro, a savant, no doubt. But it looks like his creative and unique "strength" may have ultimately become his weakness.
 
#169      

B-ILL

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If you asked me to pick between keeping Coleman or Curbelo, I would take Coleman probably 100% of the time. Coleman just fits in better with where we want to go as a roster.

Andre's regression as a shooter this year was very concerning..
Ok, this is revisionist history and based on the last few games of 2022 for CH vs all of 2020-2021. Belo was 6th Man of the Year in the Big Ten as a freshman and on NBA watchlists heading into this season before getting injured. Even in the Chattanooga game, Illinois was +15 with Belo on the court and -14 with him off.

I guarantee that if there was a league poll or some kind of draft of all the current Illinois players (minus the departing seniors), it would be 1. Kofi 2. Belo without question. Let’s not pretend he’ll be easy to replace as a Junior starting PG next year… even with some of the rumored incoming players.
 
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Ok, this is revisionist history and based on the last few games of 2022 for CH vs all of 2020-2021. Belo was 6th Man of the Year in the Big Ten as a freshman and on NBA watchlists heading into this season before getting injured. Even in the Chattanooga game, Illinois was +15 with Belo on the court and -14 with him off.

I guarantee that if there was a league poll or some kind of draft of all the current Illinois players (minus the departing seniors), it would be 1. Kofi 2. Belo without question. Let’s not pretend he’ll be easy to replace as a Junior starting PG next year… even with some of the rumored incoming players.
I actually have found that other fan bases (going by message boards I randomly check and my non-Illini friends) are much harsher on Curbelo than people here, even now. I felt like I was constantly defending him this year, and a lot of comments on Big Ten message boards today were wondering if it wasn’t for our benefit he transferred. I don’t agree with that and would have loved Andre to stay, but just sayin’.
 
#173      
Man, seeing Belo leave has me sad, less in a “dang we coulda used him next year” way but more a “oh, what could’ve been” way. Such a bummer that this is where his Illini career will end after one of the most — I think THE most — promising starts I’ve seen in my time as a fan. I will wish him the best nonetheless and hope his next year is so good he ends up in the League and we don’t have to watch 2-3 years of domination for another school. Here’s to a fresh start, I guess. Time to get some transfers in the door that make us forget all about this.
 
#174      
Ok, this is revisionist history and based on the last few games of 2022 for CH vs all of 2020-2021. Belo was 6th Man of the Year in the Big Ten as a freshman and on NBA watchlists heading into this season before getting injured. Even in the Chattanooga game, Illinois was +15 with Belo on the court and -14 with him off.

I guarantee that if there was a league poll or some kind of draft of all the current Illinois players (minus the departing seniors), it would be 1. Kofi 2. Belo without question. Let’s not pretend he’ll be easy to replace as a Junior starting PG next year… even with some of the rumored incoming players.

Teams adjusted to him. Plain and simple.

Whatever conference he goes to next year is going to dare him to shoot mid-range jumpers and threes. I don't think Brad wanted to go into next year with the exact same problem as this year. If he started knocking down shots great. If he didn't then you suddenly are in the same spot as this year.

I'll take 3rd year Coleman that fits way better with what we want to do and a senior PG that is a proven shot maker.
 
#175      

B-ILL

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Teams adjusted to him. Plain and simple.

Whatever conference he goes to next year is going to dare him to shoot mid-range jumpers and threes. I don't think Brad wanted to go into next year with the exact same problem as this year. If he started knocking down shots great. If he didn't then you suddenly are in the same spot as this year.

I'll take 3rd year Coleman that fits way better with what we want to do and a senior PG that is a proven shot maker.
Maybe I'm completely missing who this senior PG is that is a proven shot maker...?
 
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