Arizona 90, Illinois 69 POSTGAME

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mattcoldagelli

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We're where I expected us to be record-wise, but I've got concerns.

- Turnovers. My god. And this is with our pressure ratcheted down, so we're not even offsetting it with as many forced TOs.
- We have exactly one guy who can contribute off the bench.
- Giorgi is out of position.
- Our offense has yet to really run smoothly. Our rebounding has covered up some of that, but obviously on display tonight.
 
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ILLjuice

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mattcoldagelli said:
We're where I expected us to be record-wise, but I've got concerns.

- Turnovers. My god. And this is with our pressure ratcheted down, so we're not even offsetting it with as many forced TOs.
- We have exactly one guy who can contribute off the bench.
- Giorgi is out of position.
- Our offense has yet to really run smoothly. Our rebounding has covered up some of that, but obviously on display tonight.
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And for some reason Kipper gets more minutes
 
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CasualObserver05

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Again, how is Sean Miller on the sideline without some kind of sanctions?! A recruiting class loaded like this by someone caught on tape approving a payment for Ayton?!

Doesn't excuse our second half performance. I'll call that 3rd game of the season on the road on the west coast after a Friday night game? I sure hope that was it!
 
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Look Arizona is good. I get that. However, the way we looked in the 2nd half is unacceptable. Outcoached, outplayed, out-talented, out everything'd. We looked like we'd rather be elsewhere for pretty much the entire half.

Underwood's defense gets gashed game after game. How many opponents have shot more than 50% in the Underwood era against us? We can't cover shooters and can't guard the ball. It's a failure on so many levels.
 
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Mannion is worth the hype, kid is lottery. Nnaji will be gone as well next year, we were simly outmanned by freshman better ball players. They have played high level AAU for years, I don't really think those kind of freshman can be looked at any longer as being unseasoned....they are.

BU has got to figure out the Giorgi experiment....this version is not working and Giorgi has regressed since being relocated. I hate to say it but I also think Giorgi needs to get back to having the "chip" on his shoulder and proving himself. Have fun always, but man be aggressive!

2nd half turnovers and defense is horrendous...50 points in 2nd half, typical BU defense, it has got to get better.
 
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Illinidpm

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We can’t go on 5-7 minute scoring droughts.. A ton of miscues on defense that led to open 3s or layups. Georgi and Kofi have to be better in that environment. Kofi will learn, but georgi has been through the ringer now.
Damonte played okay, better than normal. Kipper was lost in the first half. Hopefully we learn from this and move forward. I would have liked to see BBV and Alan play more.
 
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STLIlliniMike

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I don’t know anyone that said Arizona’s roster was 20+ points better than ours. To be outplayed, out coached, and outclassed sucks. Arizona had 8 new players this year and looked way ahead of us. Why are multiple players regressing after years in BU’s system and Miller can plug and play guys with ease?
 
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Illinidpm said:
We can’t go on 5-7 minute scoring droughts.. A ton of miscues on defense that led to open 3s or layups. Georgi and Kofi have to be better in that environment. Kofi will learn, but georgi has been through the ringer now.
Damonte played okay, better than normal. Kipper was lost in the first half. Hopefully we learn from this and move forward. I would have liked to see BBV and Alan play more.
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The thing is other teams never go on scoring droughts against us. We are terrible defensively and that has been the case since BU got here. Don't care about Groce years I don't think we were very good then either. But something has got to change. We were terrible defensively last year as well but at least we forced some turnovers which one us the MSU game. I will say it again, same as I said after the first two games and exhibition: I'm getting very concerned about BU's in - game coaching abilities and decision making/substitution patterns.
 
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I get so sick of reading after every loss, "outcoached." Anyone, please tell me where we got outcoahced?! I will give you out of bounds, I still can't understnad why we can't get the ball in bounds?
 
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As many have already said, it's not the loss that's frustrating, it's the complete ineptitude displayed in the loss, the lack of execution, or perhaps the lack of a gameplan for our guys to execute. And what's especially troubling is the regression of Giorgi and TF. They've shown that they're all B1G caliber players, yet we've somehow found a way to turn them into non factors.
 
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TMC999

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WhiteRhino said:
Other lesson from today (as if we didn't already know): Cheating pays in the NCAA.

Arizona coach caught on tape cheating and by the looks of their freshmen it hasn't hurt their recruiting at all.
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How is he even on the bench? Its a joke.
 
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STLIlliniMike said:
Miller can plug and play guys with ease?
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Because talent doesn't take that long to excel...we still are outranked substantially against Power 5 teams...Ayo and Kofi are our highest ranked guys, and Kofi has been playing ball what 4 years...Mannion has been coached for 18, Nnaji is a stud and will be drafted very high next year.
 
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There is no excuse for losing by 21. They undoubtedly had more talent than us, but 22 TO’s (5 from a supposed 1st round pick and 7 from a senior PG) will not cut it. We aren’t that talented.

Giorgi is obviously lost and that led to frustration tonight. Must find a way to get him involved early and not 22ft away from the basket.

This team will win a bunch of games, but I feel like BU gets out coached a lot in the second half. May be wrong, but just seems that way to me.
 
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frycicle said:
In my opinion, Arizona just looks really good, I could see them being top 10 all season. Nico Mannion looking like Steve Nash out there.

We got some stuff to clean up, but I think we are still a tourney team.
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The Nash comparison is spot on IMO. Kid is impressive.

We currently are 6 deep. Need Tev back, he will be a big contributor. Need more than just Griffin off the bench.