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Disagree. NIL does a lot to even the playing field for cheaters.
When guys like Self and Pearl (add in as many names as you want) are getting basically getting a free pass for any past “indiscretions” due to NIL, I’d say that’s a pretty good deal vs being kicked out of coaching and losing $5M per year. Yes I’m oversimplifying the situation.
 
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When guys like Self and Pearl (add in as many names as you want) are getting basically getting a free pass for any past “indiscretions” due to NIL, I’d say that’s a pretty good deal vs being kicked out of coaching and losing $5M per year. Yes I’m oversimplifying the situation.
You think NIL is giving them a free pass? where have you been for the last 6 decades? Guys like this were getting a free pass long before NIL.

NIL means that players can get money above board making it far less enticing to get any money under the table.
 
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There’s a pretty big difference here though, in how he cheated vs the NIL money issue. His staff took advantage of athletes by accepting bribes for steering athletes to certain financial advisers. Those advisers most likely were looking out for their own interests like putting the kids in criminally high fee funds and those that paid them huge commissions. For perspective, it was worth $91.5k in bribes from those advisers to his one assistant - they wouldn’t pay that unless it was worth it to them. NIL money goes to the athletes. These money issues are totally different and shouldn’t be painted with the same brush. It’s absolutely contemptible that a staff would do that to athletes. In my opinion, and I know this is strong, but coaches that cheat athletes out of money (directly or indirectly) should be barred from coaching by the NCAA.

Edit: to explain where I am coming from, I work in the banking industry. If you commit a crime of dishonesty and are found guilty, you will never work for a bank again. This kind of penalty exists in the real world.

Insightful perspective.

Still, we know that administrators will go along with boosters, who often justify a win-at-all-costs model. With Pearl, you know what you're getting --a guy who doesn't care how he wins, only that he does. He will break the rules, do whatever it takes to bring in guys, and he can coach. You watch his teams, and while he can't perform miracles, if he gets the talent he wants, he does pretty well with it. If he didn't come with so much baggage, teams would be drooling over his resume.

He's cheated at every stop, and when you pull back and look at his career, for the most part, he's gotten away with it. He's a snake that will eventually bite whoever hires him, but will almost certainly make a run or two while he's there. I can see why programs talk themselves into hiring him, but they'd be smart to put in some strong clauses for cause to get him out of there once he implodes. You know he's going to make a mess of things, and when he does, they should have an out.

I'd love to know what the powers that be, in the conference, think of Maryland hiring him. I expect it's a matter for Maryland to decide, but if the conference has to deal with him, there might be some opinions floating around that have a small bit of influence.

College basketball (NCAA) doesn't have red lines anymore, as we can see from the lack of meaningful fallout from the FBI prosecutions. They waited for the whole thing to blow over, and it worked. There were minor consequences, but not much in the scheme of things. It's really up to the conferences to police themselves, and they don't want to do it anymore than the NCAA. Until they lose fans, the NCAA can keep hitting icebergs and the band plays on.

Personally, I'd rather they not hire him, which probably means they will. :oops:
 
#57      
Fool me once......
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You think NIL is giving them a free pass? where have you been for the last 6 decades? Guys like this were getting a free pass long before NIL.

NIL means that players can get money above board making it far less enticing to get any money under the table.
Thanks. I’ve been wondering what this NIL thing was……

Has the NCAA looked the other way? Of course they have and everyone knows it. Did the entire world have access to FBI recordings proving exactly what was happening right in front of the NCAA’s face? I think that’s a relatively new development. The result was, well, it’s basically legal now, so we don’t need to worry about anything. Self gets a big raise and lifetime contract when he was rumored to be on his way out of college basketball.

You don’t see it that way, fine.
 
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The right call for the Terps is Ryan Odom. Not sure he would bail after one yeart at Utah State, but good coaches do leave after one year at a new school, as we happily know. Odom is highly regarding in Maryland, would recruit well, and I could see him have a long run there. UM is pretty risk averse it seems to me and I think will pass on Pearl...but I have been wrong before!
 
#60      
Ah Bruce Pearl......not exactly a "good" person. The guy just can't tell the truth. ...from all the way back to the Deon Thomas mess.....followed by the Tennessee lies about the recruiting visit.(.Pearl not only lied about the cookout, but also told Craft's father to lie as well)..whew.
 
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And then there’s Pearl: the dime dropper on violations by Illinois back in 1989; named in a violation when he was at Milwaukee in 2004 for inviting a prospect to his daughter’s graduation party; named in a violation at Tennessee for inviting a prospect to a backyard cookout in ’08 (and then lying about it); and now being the guy who hired wheeler-dealer Person and was shocked to find out what was going on.

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Oh, and keep this in mind: Steve Thompson is Pearl’s extremely effective, highly aggressive attorney. He’s also LSU coach Will Wade’s counsel. And Sean Miller’s, who was fired by Arizona earlier this year.

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