Blackhawks '18-'19

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Joel Goodson
ILL in IA said:
As a Sox, Bulls, Blackhawks, Bears and Illini fan, I feel as if I have been using this exact comment, over and over and over again at the end of seasons. The Bears have worked their way out of this, but man, I picked the wrong decade to stop sniffing glue.
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The NHL is the only league that has a hard cap. Can't compare teams from that league to other sports teams.
 
#278      
Joel Goodson
ChiefIllini said:
Does the NFL not also have a hard cap?
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One of these things is not like the other:

"Because of this setup, NFL contracts almost always include the right to cut a player before the beginning of a season. If a player is cut, his salary for the remainder of his contract is neither paid nor counted against the salary cap for that team. A highly sought-after player signing a long-term contract will usually receive a signing bonus, thus providing him with financial security even if he is cut before the end of his contract."

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary_cap
 
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bdutts
Joel Goodson said:
One of these things is not like the other:

"Because of this setup, NFL contracts almost always include the right to cut a player before the beginning of a season. If a player is cut, his salary for the remainder of his contract is neither paid nor counted against the salary cap for that team. A highly sought-after player signing a long-term contract will usually receive a signing bonus, thus providing him with financial security even if he is cut before the end of his contract."

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary_cap
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Not to mention, the NHL requires teams to take on part of the salary cap hit for players that retire during a contract. That's why you see teams deal guys that are "retired", just not officially. How stupid are the people running that league?
 
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Illiniaaron
ILL in IA said:
As a Sox, Bulls, Blackhawks, Bears and Illini fan, I feel as if I have been using this exact comment, over and over and over again at the end of seasons. The Bears have worked their way out of this, but man, I picked the wrong decade to stop sniffing glue.
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Is there ever really a right time? :faint:Bulls and Illini just seem so hopeless at times.
 
#281      
Joel Goodson
bdutts said:
Not to mention, the NHL requires teams to take on part of the salary cap hit for players that retire during a contract. That's why you see teams deal guys that are "retired", just not officially. How stupid are the people running that league?
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It's not the league, it's the owners.
 
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ILL in IA
Joel Goodson said:
The NHL is the only league that has a hard cap. Can't compare teams from that league to other sports teams.
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You literally missed the entire point of the post. I follow crappy teams and end the season looking for hope
 
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Joel Goodson
Illinisoccer said:
Unfortunately it is a 2 prospect draft. Hopefully they can package it for a top 4 defenseman
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Turcotte, Byram or Pods is massively, massively better than what we were getting. And who knows? Maybe the wing heavy Rangers take Byram and Kakko falls to the Hawks. Lots of great options here.
 
#287      
bdutts
Joel Goodson said:
Turcotte, Byram or Pods is massively, massively better than what we were getting. And who knows? Maybe the wing heavy Rangers take Byram and Kakko falls to the Hawks. Lots of great options here.
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Don't forget Cozens. I wouldn't be surprised if they took him at #3. Or Dach. But yeah, something strange could happen where one of the top two guys falls.
 
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KBLEE
The last time they drafted #3 it worked out pretty well.
 
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Illiniaaron
Just a few notes I thought were interesting about Patrick Kane-Its hard to believe that next year will be his thirteenth in the league. Remarkable that he would have his highest point total in his twelfth year, and also that he has only missed two games in the last four seasons. Most of you probably saw that he passed up Steve Larmer for fourth all-time leading scorer in Hawks history this year. With 938 points is only 62 away from 1,000 and should surpass that easily next season if healthy.
 
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Joel Goodson
Illiniaaron said:
Just a few notes I thought were interesting about Patrick Kane-Its hard to believe that next year will be his thirteenth in the league. Remarkable that he would have his highest point total in his twelfth year, and also that he has only missed two games in the last four seasons. Most of you probably saw that he passed up Steve Larmer for fourth all-time leading scorer in Hawks history this year. With 938 points is only 62 away from 1,000 and should surpass that easily next season if healthy.
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Greatest American player ever.
 
#294      
Illiniaaron
Joel Goodson said:
Greatest American player ever.
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He's certainly on the Mt Rushmore of American players, but I can think of a few others-Madano, Chelios, Housley, and Roenick-that were pretty damned great too. Kane looks like the type that will play 20 years or so too.
 
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ILL in IA
Illiniaaron said:
He's certainly on the Mt Rushmore of American players, but I can think of a few others-Madano, Chelios, Housley, and Roenick-that were pretty damned great too. Kane looks like the type that will play 20 years or so too.
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How many cups do those players have? Roenick was 0fer correct?
 
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champaignchris
ILL in IA said:
How many cups do those players have? Roenick was 0fer correct?
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Modano had 1 with the Stars. Chelios had 3, 1 with the Habs and 2 late career with the Wings. Housely was 0-fer with Roenick.

Comparing Kane to the defensemen is kind of apples and oranges, but I’d take Kane’s first 13 years plus his 5+ future years over both Roenick and Modano.

Other all-time great US players, Brian Leetch (who was better than Housely and you could make a case for being better than Chelios), Keith Tkachuk, Doug Weight and Pat LaFontaine.

If it weren’t for injuries, LaFontaine would be the no doubt best. From about ‘87 to ‘93, he was completely unstoppable. He retired at 32.
 
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