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Was Arozarena the one that tweeted the video of the clubhouse after the Braves series?Jose Martinez and Randy Arozarena for Liberatore and a low level catcher. Swap some draft slots.
Was Arozarena the one that tweeted the video of the clubhouse after the Braves series?Jose Martinez and Randy Arozarena for Liberatore and a low level catcher. Swap some draft slots.
I believe it was. The club was still high on him. He was speedy.Was Arozarena the one that tweeted the video of the clubhouse after the Braves series?
I believe it was. The club was still high on him. He was speedy.
I like the trade. It clears roster spots. Maybe Ozuna? Definitely a back up catcher.Yea I'm thinking that Arozarena was the piece that the Rays actually wanted in this trade. He did kill AAA last year, and he'll get a lot more at bats in 2020 on the Rays than he would have with the Cardinals. I see he and Lane Thomas as basically the same player, so might as well trade one of them.
The trade probably looks bad initially for the Cardinals, until Liberatore and his childhood buddy Nolan Gorman win the MVP and Cy Young in 2022 with the Cardinals.
I like the trade. It clears roster spots. Maybe Ozuna? Definitely a back up catcher.
Hopefully, moving Fowler to a 4th OF position.Oh definitely. Anytime you trade what amounts to spare parts for an actual pitching prospect, you do it.
There was a Heyman tweet last night saying they didn't want to trade O'Neill and expect big things from him this year. So either that was leverage for their discussions with Ozuna or we'll see an O'Neill v Lane Thomas spring training competition for LF with Dylan Carlson hopefully taking a corner OF spot in May
Can they trade Fowler first? Saw on MLB traderumors that they were shopping him. I know they will have to pay a chunk of the contract, but they have done it before. I would rather that they pay with money, rather than good prospects.
Who’s closing games for us?
Jordan Hicks when he’s back from Tommy Johns. And if he still has his heat.Who’s closing games for us?
That's a lot to give up, especially if they are taking on Arenado's contract on top of the players.
Would love this deal if Arenado would waive the opt-out. Seems unlikely though.That's a lot to give up, especially if they are taking on Arenado's contract on top of the players.
I agree, if they could get Carp into that too, I could see it. What else are you going to do with him? $20M a year to learn left field? That is an expensive pinch hitter.That's a lot to give up, especially if they are taking on Arenado's contract on top of the players.
that deal is absolutely insane. An Arenado trade is basically the Stanton to Yankees trade, except Stanton was coming off a better year. And that trade was Castro (= O’Neill maybe?) and then 2 not very great prospects (aka not even close to Gorman or Liberatore).
including potentially 2/5 of your rotation, a starting LF, and 2 of your top 3 prospects is just nonsense.
Gorman is a 19 year old third base prospect that becomes blocked when Arenado arrives. Liberatore is MLB’s 4th rated LHP prospect. A pretty nice get for Jose Martinez and Arozarena. I think the Cardinals grew frustrated with Carlos for showing up in bad shape the last couple of years. So in this group Liberatore might be the biggest give.Can't imagine they'd part with Gorman in this deal. I know nothing about Liberatore, but the fact that the Rays were willing to part with him for Martinez and Arozarena makes me think he might be a little too high in most prospect lists. But two MLB ready starting pitchers (or one and a closer), one power OF prospect, and one highly regarded pitching prospect would seem to be a very good haul for the Rockies.
Gorman is a 19 year old third base prospect that becomes blocked when Arenado arrives. Liberatore is MLB’s 4th rated LHP prospect. A pretty nice get for Jose Martinez and Arozarena. I think the Cardinals grew frustrated with Carlos for showing up in bad shape the last couple of years. So in this group Liberatore might be the biggest give.
Carp needs included. No place for him if we get Arenado plus they need to take some $$$$ back from us.