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<blockquote data-quote="Ransom Stoddard" data-source="post: 1238190" data-attributes="member: 10336"><p>A national championship and 3 SEC West titles aren't specific enough for you? 9 straight bowl seasons isn't specific? I guess I don't understand what you're looking for, except that maybe you don't like Les Miles.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I doubt he'll be available in 2 years. I doubt he'll be available in 3 months.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you're placing too much emphasis on the age factor. Miles will turn 63 in November, but Lovie Smith is 58, Saban is 64, Mike Riley got hired at Nebraska when he was 61 (following a not-so-impressive 12 year run at Oregon State). In fact, that's a great point--if a slightly-better-than-average coach like Mike Riley can get a job at an historically successful program like Nebraska, why is Miles, with a much more impressive resume, such a reach? (yes, I'm aware that Husker nation is mostly furious with the hire)</p><p></p><p>It's not unthinkable for coaches to be successful into their 70's--Bowden won a Championship at 69 and 1st in the Atlantic Division of the ACC at 78. Bear Bryant coached into his late 60's, and of course there's Paterno. I think you're also putting too much emphasis on Miles being fired <em>from the SEC</em>. Ron Freaking Zook got a job after being fired, with far less resume. Mark Richt got a pretty plum job less than 2 weeks after being fired from UGA--probably a better job for him in the long run. Being fired from upper-tier SEC programs is not a black mark for probably 75% of the AD's out there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Your definition of widespread is not the same as my definition of widespread. While a lot of analysts and media folks saw this coming, I haven't seen too many who thought it was deserved. Yes, LSU fans and boosters (I know a fair number) were calling for his head, some even doing so as far back as 2008 because the Tigers slipped to 3rd in the West after the NC season, and the seat got hot again in 2011 because he <em>lost</em> the NC game. His relationship with LSU fans has regressed ever since and 3 weeks in November 2015 broke the camel's back, but it doesn't change his abilities as a coach. A good AD sees through the media and message board nonsense.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>That's an irrelevant question in October of 2016. If it had been asked in February 2016 I would probably have taken Miles. He's a proven factor in college FB and Lovie was--and still is--a question mark as a college HC. Lovie's our coach, but if for some reason he weren't and Miles were available--I'd be rooting very hard for Les Miles to be hired at Illinois. Imagine--a coach who has been to 2 national championships coaching Illinois.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ransom Stoddard, post: 1238190, member: 10336"] A national championship and 3 SEC West titles aren't specific enough for you? 9 straight bowl seasons isn't specific? I guess I don't understand what you're looking for, except that maybe you don't like Les Miles. I doubt he'll be available in 2 years. I doubt he'll be available in 3 months. I think you're placing too much emphasis on the age factor. Miles will turn 63 in November, but Lovie Smith is 58, Saban is 64, Mike Riley got hired at Nebraska when he was 61 (following a not-so-impressive 12 year run at Oregon State). In fact, that's a great point--if a slightly-better-than-average coach like Mike Riley can get a job at an historically successful program like Nebraska, why is Miles, with a much more impressive resume, such a reach? (yes, I'm aware that Husker nation is mostly furious with the hire) It's not unthinkable for coaches to be successful into their 70's--Bowden won a Championship at 69 and 1st in the Atlantic Division of the ACC at 78. Bear Bryant coached into his late 60's, and of course there's Paterno. I think you're also putting too much emphasis on Miles being fired [I]from the SEC[/I]. Ron Freaking Zook got a job after being fired, with far less resume. Mark Richt got a pretty plum job less than 2 weeks after being fired from UGA--probably a better job for him in the long run. Being fired from upper-tier SEC programs is not a black mark for probably 75% of the AD's out there. Your definition of widespread is not the same as my definition of widespread. While a lot of analysts and media folks saw this coming, I haven't seen too many who thought it was deserved. Yes, LSU fans and boosters (I know a fair number) were calling for his head, some even doing so as far back as 2008 because the Tigers slipped to 3rd in the West after the NC season, and the seat got hot again in 2011 because he [I]lost[/I] the NC game. His relationship with LSU fans has regressed ever since and 3 weeks in November 2015 broke the camel's back, but it doesn't change his abilities as a coach. A good AD sees through the media and message board nonsense. That's an irrelevant question in October of 2016. If it had been asked in February 2016 I would probably have taken Miles. He's a proven factor in college FB and Lovie was--and still is--a question mark as a college HC. Lovie's our coach, but if for some reason he weren't and Miles were available--I'd be rooting very hard for Les Miles to be hired at Illinois. Imagine--a coach who has been to 2 national championships coaching Illinois. [/QUOTE]
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