Thst just means they need to move quickly in the short term.
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Thst just means they need to move quickly in the short term.
If he actually follows through I would say it aged wonderfully for the country as a whole.This didn’t age well at all,hopefully he’s already packing his bags.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I'm torn on this one.
There is obviously an understandable resistance to throwing flags on hail mary's. You start governing those plays by the exact same rules as a normal passing play and you have a farcical mess on your hands in which games never end.
That said, you can also end up with a farce if you just refuse to call anything ever. And the thing about it in context, the refs had been very flag-happy downfield in the last few minutes of that game, there is no doubt this would have been called on any other snap of that game. It's risky to open the door of "the rules are different on this kind of play" too wide.
I will also say, the way the "rules analyst" position is starting to become shameless propaganda for whatever choice the on-field refs make is not good for the broadcasts, not good for the sport, and ultimately not good for the on-field refereeing. The leagues and networks should be working towards eliminating that role, but instead it seems to be a bigger and bigger part of the broadcasts.
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
Probably a dumb question, but I don't exactly recall. How did all the other networks allow ESPN to control 100% of the playoff?
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
Illini in Italy
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Curbelo Fanboy
BERTBALL IS LIFE
Heck last night on the first targeting call (the one that was reversed), Bill Lemonier at first said "it was targeting" then after it was overturned said "no it wasn't & here's why".
I find it an utter joke that he is the "ref in the booth" on the ABC national games given what we know about his performance in the Michigan Illinois game in 2000. Those of us that were there have not & will never forget. Dude was blind as a bat & corrupt 25 years ago. What makes you think he's changed now.
As to your point on that particular play, it is a tough line to walk. I hate in basketball when the announcer says "you can't call that at the end of the game". Why not, if it's a rule for the first 39 minutes it should apply the same at the end. Sometimes the refs decide the game by what they don't call as much as what they do call.
I did think on that play last night, there was clear contact but it was essentially an uncatchable ball based on where the pass ended up. No mortal human was catching that ball in bounds. Might have caught it but no way was he getting a foot down.
money
ESPN had lost out on a bunch of other sports & went all in on the cfb bowls & CFP playoffs & scared the other networks away
Does Miami have to spot their opponent a field goal or something, for getting to play at home?
Sure hope they allocate tickets 50-50.
Did I hear someone say "trust me"?
Sure hope they allocate tickets 50-50.
Did I hear someone say "trust me"?
Watching that play again after 23 years it is apparent that Ohio State got gifted a national championship. Miami would have won their 6th national championship in 20 years if there was a no call on that play. It was incredible how dominant Miami was from the 1983 season to the 2002 season. Not only did Miami win 5 national champioships during that time span but they finished second/third in 1986, 1988, 1990, 1992, 2000 & 2002. It seemed like Miami lost their mojo after that Ohio State loss in January 2003 and the SEC teams started poaching more players from Southern Florida. It looks like Miami has upgraded their recruiting and keeping more top southern Florida players home in Miami.
I am so glad Jim Delaney gave ESPN and the SEC the finger, starting the chain of events leading to the reemergence of what is now the B1G, the decline of both ESPN and the SEC, and a much better viewing situation for the average fan. And it promises to get even better.
It is more than Delaney's artfully raised finger at a crucial point in time, but I admire the courage, resolve, and results.
It is more than Delaney's artfully raised finger at a crucial point in time, but I admire the courage, resolve, and results.
Curbelo Fanboy
BERTBALL IS LIFE
It did allow Illinois to say in 2002 they took the eventual champs to overtime (and kinda got jobbed at the end against them).
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
The call was for a tug on Gamble's shoulder impeding him from being able to turn and face the ball, which is not visible in the replay angle everyone always shows.
I see there is a new replay of that whole game on Youtube
One thing that's very obvious looking at these old games: High Definition TV has made a DRAMATIC difference in the ability of a broadcast to cast doubt and reveal error in the refereeing of a game. There was a literal haze of uncertainty before, no longer.
And IMO the sports industry as a whole is handling that newfound ability catastrophically badly.
I agree. That was one of worst cases ever of refs making the game about them.
Maybe the SEC will get an entire side of the bracket moving forward with Notre Dame getting a bye to the semifinals from the non-SEC side.
funny
you know thats what both want , to be totally honest .
19:00 minute mark of the YouTube. The Illini crowd noise causes OSU to false start three straight plays. The TV crowd mic doesn't do it justice. I was there that day and it was deafening.
Jim Sheppard, war chant, pre-renovations..........
Thanks for posting - it's wild seeing our QB go under center and take a 7 step drop! That simply doesn't exist anywhere in football anymore
They're like Internal Affairs or HR - their role is usually propaganda or CYA, but occasionally they call out egregious mistakes. The announcers should know enough to make those comments.
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