CFP Selection Show Thread

[ChiefGritty]

It pretty much always needed to be an 8 team affair, in my opinion. Take the champions of each league in the Power 5 and then three at-large bids for teams like Cincinnati or a second SEC team. Follow with 3 weeks of great football.

3 weeks of great football, at the expense of the other 13.

I happened upon the wikipedia page of the 2007 West Virginia/Pitt game today. You remember that one, Dave Wannstedt's crappy Pitt team somehow shut down Pat White and Steve Slaton's juggernaut that needed only that win to make the national title game and won a prime time game in Morgantown 13-9, in what was the 100th Backyard Brawl game. Rich Rod leaves for Michigan a week later. It was an epochal moment in the sport, like a plot twist in Game of Thrones or something.

And it feels like it comes from a different universe. Last week of the regular season, a massive rivalry game played at a campus site and an outcome that takes a game for the national title away from a program that may never get that close again.

Conference chicanery has taken so many of those rivalries from us, the Backyard Brawl being a prominent one. And everything just leads up towards the antiseptic, charmless carnival of exactly alike neutral site games where the entire leverage of the season is played out. Just awful, and a metaphor for so much else in our world. I'm so ridiculous, but I really did just sit there with that wikipedia page and feel sad for a bit today.

 

[iFlyBy]

3 weeks of great football, at the expense of the other 13.

How in the world do they come at the expense of the other 13? The other 13 matter a lot. Each conference loss by a contender opens the door for other teams to make a run at a conference championship. A tougher out-of-conference schedule no longer punishes you since it's the conference championship that gets you in the playoffs now. However, you're rewarded for playing those tough games with higher seeding should you make the playoffs and win those games.

Basketball has a similar approach, and the regular season games still matter on the whole. Of course there will be situations where some games don't matter in terms of postseason appearances, but that's true in every sport at every level, including the current college football situation.

 

[sacraig]

3 weeks of great football, at the expense of the other 13.

I happened upon the wikipedia page of the 2007 West Virginia/Pitt game today. You remember that one, Dave Wannstedt's crappy Pitt team somehow shut down Pat White and Steve Slaton's juggernaut that needed only that win to make the national title game and won a prime time game in Morgantown 13-9, in what was the 100th Backyard Brawl game. Rich Rod leaves for Michigan a week later. It was an epochal moment in the sport, like a plot twist in Game of Thrones or something.

And it feels like it comes from a different universe. Last week of the regular season, a massive rivalry game played at a campus site and an outcome that takes a game for the national title away from a program that may never get that close again.

Conference chicanery has taken so many of those rivalries from us, the Backyard Brawl being a prominent one. And everything just leads up towards the antiseptic, charmless carnival of exactly alike neutral site games where the entire leverage of the season is played out. Just awful, and a metaphor for so much else in our world. I'm so ridiculous, but I really did just sit there with that wikipedia page and feel sad for a bit today.

And yet the old system of choosing a champion was awful. There really is no perfect solution as far as I can see. You've got to do something about teams like Texas A&M and Cincinnati (and in a previous life, Boise State) getting left out of the playoff. I think the way you do it is with a slightly larger tournament. There are probably ways to make those games less alike. Shoot, you could even let the top seeded teams host the first round to give it some fire, though the smaller guys would probably cry foul.

 

[Thaillini22]

3 weeks of great football, at the expense of the other 13.

I happened upon the wikipedia page of the 2007 West Virginia/Pitt game today. You remember that one, Dave Wannstedt's crappy Pitt team somehow shut down Pat White and Steve Slaton's juggernaut that needed only that win to make the national title game and won a prime time game in Morgantown 13-9, in what was the 100th Backyard Brawl game. Rich Rod leaves for Michigan a week later. It was an epochal moment in the sport, like a plot twist in Game of Thrones or something.

And it feels like it comes from a different universe. Last week of the regular season, a massive rivalry game played at a campus site and an outcome that takes a game for the national title away from a program that may never get that close again.

Conference chicanery has taken so many of those rivalries from us, the Backyard Brawl being a prominent one. And everything just leads up towards the antiseptic, charmless carnival of exactly alike neutral site games where the entire leverage of the season is played out. Just awful, and a metaphor for so much else in our world. I'm so ridiculous, but I really did just sit there with that wikipedia page and feel sad for a bit today.

In an extremely strong field, this might be my favorite K'sB2nDanielChiefG post of them all.

 

[IllinoisssssssVarsity]

off the top of my head

2 non con games
9 conference
1 championship/crossover game like the big had this year (this is key)
16 team playoff

you can take P5 teams with multiple losses AND undefeated G5 teams because you’re taking 16.

That crossover weak is big because the teams on that second rung of the P5 ladder could still have a chance to make the playoff with if they have 1-2 losses depending on how strong other conferences are.

we already have the New Years 6. Its 4 more teams after that.

or if the New Years 6 teams are just that much better year after year, make it a 12 team playoff, top 4 seeds get a bye.

spitballing, but more teams the merrier to me.

 

[wma500]

I'm a college football traditionalist. While you can debate the merits of how to construct an 16 team playoff, the reality is that move closers to the NFL model (division winners and wild cards). We already have the NFL, and college football has been such a consumable alternative to the NFL, that I have no interest is the Saturday version of the NFL.

 

[strongsafety]

It pretty much always needed to be an 8 team affair, in my opinion. Take the champions of each league in the Power 5 and then three at-large bids for teams like Cincinnati or a second SEC team. Follow with 3 weeks of great football.

Best way to do this......have a 24 team playoff. Cut the regular season down to 10 games and play 9-24 the week before Thanksgiving. Then 1-16 on Thanksgiving weekend. then 1-8 the next. You still have time for bowl games after that to satisfy the voracious appetite for football over the holidays and they still make their money. After 10 games most team can just stop it there but we learned this year that games can be scheduled quickly(Coastal Car--BYU), so if they don't make it, they can schedule another game. This would end the monopoly of the Big 5(which it why it won't happen). But the NCAA would make a mint on this one. Just put the gold bars in a Fort Knox type container.