Chicago Bears 2025-2026

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Do you realize that their business dealings are SO bad that the Chicago Park District gets a cut of ticket sales and concession sales? Who gets into that kind of a BS deal other than the McCaskey's and their unwillingness to push.
Right, and now we're getting to a place of agreement. I cannot even fathom how you can own an NFL franchise, one of the most valuable assets on the planet, and still be so inept that you are regularly getting pantsed by the Chicago Park District.
 
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I'm all in favor of the Bears going to NW Indiana. If that's what gets the deal done, do it. The better business decision is NW Indiana.

Telling me how stable this state is....is ridiculous. This state, notably Cook County and drilling down further and most notably Chicago, is an absolute dumpster fire. They literally diverted a government shutdown because Brandon Johnson is bent of a head tax on corporations. They know it would cripple the economy, causing businesses to leave. It's common sense.

The issues that this state has (high debt, policy concerns (taxation/regulation), and slow population growth) all contribute to low rankings in economic performance/outlook (46th-48th) by some analyses.

I'll let you(or anyone) to dispute the numbers or issues. Pritzger is business savvy, but does nothing but play politics and blame the federal government, as he positions himself to run in 2028. He'll never challenge the Chicago machine because he'll lose in every way.

To be fair(and keep on track with Bears discussion), he's in absolutely no position to take any stance to aid a billion dollar operation from a taxpayer standpoint. The Bears need to build their own stadium and they are. They still owe money on the current dumpster fire on the lake that they lazily put together 25+ years ago because they couldn't deal with the city or state. Do you realize that their business dealings are SO bad that the Chicago Park District gets a cut of ticket sales and concession sales? Who gets into that kind of a BS deal other than the McCaskey's and their unwillingness to push.

Kevin Warren is in an almost impossible situation here. Even if Pritzger were to agree to put money forth for infrastructure, how much? That parcel of land in Arlington Heights needs more than $1B to be stadium ready. That will be a 10 year, $6B to $8B infrastructure project that he will NEVER be able to get through because:

Illinois is significantly in debt, facing one of the nation's largest fiscal challenges primarily due to massive unfunded state pension liabilities, with reports showing over $200 billion in total retirement debt and high per-capita taxpayer burdens, though the state has seen some recent positive trends in reducing overall long-term debt principal and improving short-term cash flow.

Key Aspects of Illinois' Debt:
  • Massive Pension Debt:
    The state has over $140 billion in unfunded pension obligations, the largest of any state, with total state and local retirement debt exceeding $200 billion.

  • High Taxpayer Burden:
    This debt translates to a substantial financial obligation for each resident, with figures showing each taxpayer effectively owes tens of thousands of dollars.

  • Lowest Credit Rating:
    Illinois holds the lowest credit rating of any state, leading to higher borrowing costs.

  • Long-Term Fiscal Issues:
    Chronic budget deficits, spending more than revenue, and a lack of fundamental pension reform have contributed to the crisis.
I don't understand what is going to cost $1B in infrastructure to make that site stadium ready. Have the Bears ever put out a list of what is needed and the expected costs? Its' not like they're buying a bunch of farmland in the middle of nowhere.
 
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I don't understand what is going to cost $1B in infrastructure to make that site stadium ready. Have the Bears ever put out a list of what is needed and the expected costs? Its' not like they're buying a bunch of farmland in the middle of nowhere.
That parcel of land is surrounded by two and four lane, undivided roads(Euclid and Algonquin Roads), off of I90/Route 53. There's absolutely no room to move traffic and that's without a 65,000 fans moving around.

Now, mind you, some of those stretches of road are in residential areas, so widening them isn't going to be possible, short of taking houses down.

That's just the unfortunate truth about the area surrounding the stadium.

The interchanges off of the expressway is absolutely brutal. Have you ever tried getting off on Algonquin, Arlington Heights or Euclid on a regular weeknight? It's awful. That's about a 5 mile stretch going back to Woodfield(Schaumburg). Now, imagine putting Bears traffic there. That would all have to be redone and now you're pulling in not only Arlington Heights, but also Mt. Prospect, Rolling Meadows and Wheeling.

This is why the City of Arlington Heights and the Bears did a traffic analysis. I'm sure that made it's way to the state of Illinois.

Not to add yet another layer to this, but Arlington Heights is a very nice, but old suburb. Who knows what's under the ground there. This is a community that goes absolutely nuts if ComEd needs to cut a tree down to clear electrical wires.

There is absolutely nothing easy about this. It's extremely complicated, it's extremely complex and there are a lot of cooks in the kitchen.
 
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So if the Packers lose or tie with the Ravens Saturday night, the Bears clinch the division. I wonder if that would affect who plays against the 49ers? Watching how open Colts receivers were and the numbers Rivers put up through three quarters, I would hope the Bears passing game will have a big night. 49ers have no pass rush.
 
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So if the Packers lose or tie with the Ravens Saturday night, the Bears clinch the division. I wonder if that would affect who plays against the 49ers? Watching how open Colts receivers were and the numbers Rivers put up through three quarters, I would hope the Bears passing game will have a big night. 49ers have no pass rush.

No matter what happens earlier in the weekend, the Bears will still have a shot at the #1 seed when they play SF, so they will play to win. Bonus if Carolina can beat Seattle on Sunday morning.
 
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Chiefs announce they are leaving Arrowhead and Missouri and building a new stadium on the Kansas side of KC. This is essentially exactly what the Bears would be doing, but people are losing their minds way less about it. I'd wager it's because a non-zero portion of the population thought they were already playing in Kansas.


Illinois is currently 13th in CNBC's Top States for Business rankings (Indiana is 9). Illinois is 2nd in Governor's Cup rankings for corporate relocations and new business projects, behind only Texas. The state currently has its highest credit rating in 20 years.
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Not going to lie, it's pretty fun listening to my Packer fan colleagues this morning. All coming by to tell me how DIRTY the Bears are. I just smile and say thanks!
Cap this weekend of games off with a Miznoz drubbing and all will be well in my world.
All is well in my world.😁
ILL and BEAR DOWN!
 
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That parcel of land is surrounded by two and four lane, undivided roads(Euclid and Algonquin Roads), off of I90/Route 53. There's absolutely no room to move traffic and that's without a 65,000 fans moving around.

Now, mind you, some of those stretches of road are in residential areas, so widening them isn't going to be possible, short of taking houses down.

That's just the unfortunate truth about the area surrounding the stadium.

The interchanges off of the expressway is absolutely brutal. Have you ever tried getting off on Algonquin, Arlington Heights or Euclid on a regular weeknight? It's awful. That's about a 5 mile stretch going back to Woodfield(Schaumburg). Now, imagine putting Bears traffic there. That would all have to be redone and now you're pulling in not only Arlington Heights, but also Mt. Prospect, Rolling Meadows and Wheeling.

This is why the City of Arlington Heights and the Bears did a traffic analysis. I'm sure that made it's way to the state of Illinois.

Not to add yet another layer to this, but Arlington Heights is a very nice, but old suburb. Who knows what's under the ground there. This is a community that goes absolutely nuts if ComEd needs to cut a tree down to clear electrical wires.

There is absolutely nothing easy about this. It's extremely complicated, it's extremely complex and there are a lot of cooks in the kitchen.
Multiple state roads bordering the property is actually pretty good (you forgot NW Hwy as well) compared to most stadiums. I don't think any of the infrastructure funding would do anything to those roads. It looks like the reporting says it's for new entrance and exit ramps on Rt 53 and some changes to the metra line, I'm guessing to move the station closer to where they want to build the stadium? My guess is the Bears are also including infrastructure costs of building the housing and hotels they plan on building there as well, but they won't say that publicly.

They did a traffic analysis to try to reassure Arlington Heights residents that a stadium in their city wouldn't cause their lives to be a nightmare on event days. To try to keep the mayor on their side as residents complained.

I'm very familiar with AH--people don't like to lose trees because they are 75-100 years old. It has nothing to do with digging at the Racetrack site.

I don't think anyone is arguing that it will be easy--definitely not. But if the Bears want to build there, then they need to solve the problems with their $$
 
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All is well in my world.😁
ILL and BEAR DOWN!
Drawing a parallel to my all-time favorite sports era:

1983 Illini Football: 10-2 (ranked #5 in the nation on December 31st prior to Rose Bowl loss to UCLA)
1983-84 Illini Basketball: 26-5 (Elite 8 loss to Kentucky and final ranking of #6 nationally)
1984 Cubs: 96-65 (1st place East Division; upset in NLCS by Padres 3 games to 2)
1985 Bears: 16-1 Super Bowl Champs!

That was a heck of a lot of wins!! Deja Vu?
 
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Drawing a parallel to my all-time favorite sports era:

1983 Illini Football: 10-2 (ranked #5 in the nation on December 31st prior to Rose Bowl loss to UCLA)
1983-84 Illini Basketball: 26-5 (Elite 8 loss to Kentucky and final ranking of #6 nationally)
1984 Cubs: 96-65 (1st place East Division; upset in NLCS by Padres 3 games to 2)
1985 Bears: 16-1 Super Bowl Champs!

That was a heck of a lot of wins!! Deja Vu?
And I too am a Cubs fan. Those were sure fun times.
 
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Don't want to be a wet blanket but I think it will be tough for the Bears to travel to the west coast and beat the 49ers. Williams should have plenty of time to pass though, the 49ers pass rush is terrible.
 
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