Chicago Bulls 2025-2026

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ChiefGritty
logjam said:
Least favorable of Golden State or Denver's 2nd in 2026...also Boston 2nd rder but not from Ayo trade...
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They also don't own their own 2nd rounder which now projects in the mid 30's. I can't for the life of me figure out what trade sent it away though.

Make no mistake, the Bulls future asset situation is as bad as any team in the league, they are absolutely nowhere from a tanking perspective, there is zero promise over the horizon no matter how far forward you look.

Karnisovas will be fired before the Bulls ever see success again. It's a hopeless, irrecoverable situation, period. There was nothing that could have happened at this deadline that would have changed that, the die was cast 18 months ago.
 
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logjam
ChiefGritty said:
They also don't own their own 2nd rounder which now projects in the mid 30's. I can't for the life of me figure out what trade sent it away though.

Make no mistake, the Bulls future asset situation is as bad as any team in the league, they are absolutely nowhere from a tanking perspective, there is zero promise over the horizon no matter how far forward you look.

Karnisovas will be fired before the Bulls ever see success again. It's a hopeless, irrecoverable situation, period. There was nothing that could have happened at this deadline that would have changed that, the die was cast 18 months ago.
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True...that's why I was so happy Ayo escaped...
 
#179      
Rap47
I only followed the Bulls because they had Ayo. They ran off Jordan and have been mediocre at best since then. That seems to be a standard for Chicago sports teams.
 
#180      
Roundball Sage
Mr. Tibbs said:
I just can’t understand how people continue to spend the time , money & effort to attend the games .
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The Winter is cold and long. It costs money to fly to Florida. You get tired of sitting in the house. You want to get out and do something. Still too long until Spring Training. Gotta find something – anything – to do to get your mind off this freezing weather and grey skies.

What to do? Da BULLS! May not be perfect. But it gets a person out of the house for a couple hours. And... the Bulls are often real good to provide laughs (even when they don’t intend to).

(The above words come from a former Bulls season ticket holder. Note the word... Former).
 
#181      
champaignchris
Ryllini said:
Say the Bulls didn't luck into what MJ became, would this be a bottom 10 franchise across all 4 major sports? Without the MJ run, this franchise is the Kings or Clippers. Honestly, they got super lucky with Rose. I'm sad about it. I fit in nicely up in Chicagoland, because nobody pays more for mediocrity than Chicago sports fans.
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I wouldn’t say they got “super lucky” with Rose. The opposite really. He was the #1 overall pick doing #1 overall pick things for 4 seasons until his knee went kaboom.

They had a #2 and a #1 pick point guard in a span of 7 years and both had their careers end prematurely due to injury. Got a total of 5 healthy seasons between Williams and Rose.

Boston had a similar thing happen to them with Len Bias and Reggie Lewis both dying young and it took them a decade to recover.

Now, granted, the Bulls have had their decade plus to recover and it looks like there’s no end in sight to their mediocrity.
 
#182      
Ryllini
champaignchris said:
I wouldn’t say they got “super lucky” with Rose. The opposite really. He was the #1 overall pick doing #1 overall pick things for 4 seasons until his knee went kaboom.

They had a #2 and a #1 pick point guard in a span of 7 years and both had their careers end prematurely due to injury. Got a total of 5 healthy seasons between Williams and Rose.

Boston had a similar thing happen to them with Len Bias and Reggie Lewis both dying young and it took them a decade to recover.

Now, granted, the Bulls have had their decade plus to recover and it looks like there’s no end in sight to their mediocrity.
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If my memory holds, the are super lucky in that they had like the 10th best chance at the 1 to get Rose. That is lucky in my book.
 
#183      
ChiefGritty
Ryllini said:
If my memory holds, the are super lucky in that they had like the 10th best chance at the 1 to get Rose. That is lucky in my book.
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1.7% odds.

I suppose the point is valid though that the luck to get him and then the terrible luck of his career being devastated by injury in some sense cancel out.

The ultimate reality is that the Bulls, one of the most powerful global brands in the sports world, are at every juncture hampered by their ownership and management rather than helped. Pro basketball is a sport where individual star players can overcome that, and the Reinsdorf Bulls were fortunate enough to acquire the greatest player to ever play the game, but in every marginal aspect they are always held back.

And right now, with a team that has no hope in the present, assets for the future near the league's bottom, and leadership that has demonstrated incompetence in the areas of drafting and especially managing the player market that journalists and their front office peers are consistently publicly dumbfounded by, that ownership handbrake promises a dark, dark future.

I don't really follow this team anymore and haven't been to a game in years, not out of some burning commitment to the Reinsdorf Out movement, I just can't bring myself to care. It's a mystery to me why that's not more common, the Chicago Bulls aren't worth the sweat off anyone's brow in 2026.
 
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Ryllini
ChiefGritty said:
1.7% odds.

I suppose the point is valid though that the luck to get him and then the terrible luck of his career being devastated by injury in some sense cancel out.

The ultimate reality is that the Bulls, one of the most powerful global brands in the sports world, are at every juncture hampered by their ownership and management rather than helped. Pro basketball is a sport where individual star players can overcome that, and the Reinsdorf Bulls were fortunate enough to acquire the greatest player to ever play the game, but in every marginal aspect they are always held back.

And right now, with a team that has no hope in the present, assets for the future near the league's bottom, and leadership that has demonstrated incompetence in the areas of drafting and especially managing the player market that journalists and their front office peers are consistently publicly dumbfounded by, that ownership handbrake promises a dark, dark future.

I don't really follow this team anymore and haven't been to a game in years, not out of some burning commitment to the Reinsdorf Out movement, I just can't bring myself to care. It's a mystery to me why that's not more common, the Chicago Bulls aren't worth the sweat off anyone's brow in 2026.
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I agree with your whole post. Those 2 insanely impossible circumstances are my point. Jordan became Jordan and they lucked into draft position to get Rose. Without those two events, what franchise is this Bulls one better than?

I do however stay dialed in, because I love the Bulls. I love basketball. This is the only Chicago team I root for aside from being married into a Sox family, i passively root for them. The Bulls can allow me to be apart of this amazing sports community.
I also stay a fan, go to games, and buy merchandise, because I will refuse to have some whippersnapper call me a bandwagon if they ever right the ship. I did see Jordan, but I also saw Ron Mercer, and the Brand for Tyson Chandler deal. I was stoked for the Curry/Chandler front court. I saw them pluck Khalid El-Amin out of the 2nd round dammit. I will see this thing through.
 
#186      
ChiefGritty
ChiefGritty said:
leadership that has demonstrated incompetence in the areas of drafting and especially managing the player market that journalists and their front office peers are consistently publicly dumbfounded by
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This is a great example


You hear this all the time, plugged-in national reporters who aren't Bulls fans, are totally neutral on the team, but who are driven to ranting and raving out of sheer disbelief at how inexplicably the Bulls are being run.

Like the Clippers, for instance, are a disaster, but when you're paying an eye-watering luxury tax bill to put Harden and Kawhi and Chris Paul and Brad Beal all on a team together, it's very easy to understand, overpaying (willing to pay the luxury tax unlike the Bulls) for past-their-prime stars (actual stars unlike the Bulls) and making the playoffs doing so (the *real* playoffs unlike the Bulls), but not having championship potential is not good ownership and management, but it's understandable and sympathetic.

The Clippers got a better set of future assets and put themselves on a better long term trajectory with their moves at the deadline than the Bulls did. They got more for Ivica Zubac than the Bulls did for DeRozan, LaVine and Vucevic combined.
 
#187      
ptgrd23
Bulls "secret" 2026 off season plan

1. Tank to make sure they have their 2026 pick (top 6 protected). they are 24-28 but after trading White, Vucevic, and Ayo they park Giddey on IR for rest of season and finish 24-58. If they win a few games and end up 34-48 they would have 8th worst record.

2. Use #6 pick to draft Keaton

3. Sign Ayo back as unrestricted free agent

4. Trade Rob Dillingham back to Timberwolves for TSJ

5. Sign Walker Kessler to ridiculous FA contract that Jazz will not match

2026-7 team

PG Giddey
SG Keaton
SF TSJ
PF Buzelis
C Kessler
 
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