Does he hate recruiting more than he hates losing? His NBA tenure hasn't exactly been a string of successes... I imagine competing for National titles was a lot more fun.
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that's not the main concern imo. all eyes are on who UK hires, and then if there's a trickle down effect that hits us from that.
OnlyOrange
- Belleville, IL
Donovan hasn't been in college in a while, right? Not saying he won't be able to navigate the new portal combat world, but probably much different than what he's used to.
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mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Does he like spending time at home or interacting with family members or would he rather incessantly meet with donors and recruits? This stuff is layered.
Any coach that previous left because of recruiting burnout seems like that much further of a stretch to get back into CBB now that NIL is the norm.
This stuff is donor oriented now. Get a group of donors that hate Cal so much and you might have enough money to buy out his contract, but that same group might not have the same level of motivation to hire Oats. They also didn't fire Cal and eat the contract.
Is it still recruiting in the traditional sense or more like purchasing when you have the biggest bag of money?
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mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
(1) Yes, still a lot of the old vestiges of recruiting. Building connections and being on the road seeing recruits is going to be important. Especially at Kentucky - they have the necessary money to get the top prep recruits and there will be an expectation of getting those players to UK.
(2) Recruiting has expanded to donors in a big way. If you want someone like AJ Storr and you don't have the previous relationship (see Underwood), then you need to recruit both the player and recruit the right donors to make sure you can make a competitive offer. Whether those happen simultaneously or you complete those tasks at different times during the year, it's still a time commitment that isn't required in NBA.
Aside from Kentucky, I am shocked that Painter's name isn't thrown out more into the carousel. Any reasoning behind it or is does he not even entertain the ideas?
turnaround3
- 1st & Daniel
It took him two full decades and a back to back Naismith winner to reach one Final Four.
I don't find it too shocking.
Plus he's a Purdue guy, and I assume he loves it there, really no reason to leave unless he really wants to do something new (or the money is so ridiculous that he can't say no).
Looks like he graduated college in 1987 /s
All jokes aside, is the new portal NIL world that much different than NBA free agency?
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
You have to think that if we make it through this coaching carousel with BU then we should be fairly safe from having him poached, provided the relationship doesn't take a bitter turn. You still could have Kansas, but would they really replace a retiring Self with someone basically the same age? I guess you could have a crazy school come along and throw a bunch of money at him, but that would probably mean we are humming along these next few years, and I will definitely take that.
I think it’s pretty clear he wanted out of Kentucky and was willing to take a chance. Arkansas CHECKed enough boxes
USAFILLINI
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so it looks like we shouldn't be worried about KY with BU, but what happens if the dominoes fall and Kansas State comes calling with a large sum of money?
Sooooooo---eeeeeeee ........
Illini2010-11
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Per what I am seeing, the base pay he will receive at Arkansas is actually slightly less than base pay at Kentucky (though there are likely other incentives not released yet).
A quick search shows the buyout at Kentucky (if Kentucky were to fire him):
After 2024 season: $33.375 million
After 2025 season: $27 million
After 2026 season: $20.25 million
After 2027 season: $13.5 million
After 2028 season: $6.75 million
In short, I do not think the move has much to do with money he would get paid at Arkansas vs Kentucky. I think it is moreso the feeling that he is not wanted and that his life would be made miserable for the next couple of seasons at Kentucky. If the pay is similar, then the amount of stress is drastically reduced at Arkansas compared to Kentucky, and Arkansas has top tier assets available (especially compared to other SEC schools). I think the move is more lateral than many people think. Arkansas is easily a top 3 or 4 SEC program.
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Are they going to pay a 20+mil buyout?
Kramerica Industries
- Greenville, SC
No buyout is being paid. And if there is it’s a couple million
Isn’t Brad’s buyout for a non-Big Ten team 50% of the University buyout? So if it’s $25m or whatever for a Big Ten team, $12-13m for anyone else.
I agree that Kansas State financially would struggle to pay a $12-13m buyout and compete with whatever raise we’re negotiating for Underwood (assuming in the $5m range, will be $2m+ more than what they pay Tang).
I think he has a K state clause in there too w/ the B1G clause.
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
Are people really still doing this Brad to KSU stuff? If he ever wanted to go home there were better times. It’s 2024. Brad is established at a school with more money, more power, and more prestige in this current system. KSU can’t match us. If Brad leaves, which seems unlikely at this point, he’s not taking a lesser job, with fewer resources, for less pay.
Illini2010-11
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I know. That was the buyout he would receive if he was let go by Kentucky, which obviously is not the case here. Simply showing that I don't think Calipari jumped over to Arkansas primarily because of money (which I think was alluded to in the post I responded to). I updated the post for further clarity. The buyout if he were to leave on his own accord was $0, as you mentioned.
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