Sean didn't forget how to get talent ... I'll just leave it at that ...
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Sean didn't forget how to get talent ... I'll just leave it at that ...
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
Some coach is going to get more money out of Kentucky with the way this is playing out.
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how come we haven’t heard Sampson’s name? He’s had success everywhere he’s been. Look at Houston now too
oh, brother
I love how Josh Whitman describes his role in supporting Illinois coaches.
Josh Whitman: “In talking with high-level competitors … the thing that matters the most to them is, ‘Do we have a chance here to do what our ultimate goals are?’
“Which is to win Big Ten and national championships. My job is to make sure we’re providing them with the resources …”
(source: Scott Richey, News-Gazette, April 11 2024)
Josh Whitman: “In talking with high-level competitors … the thing that matters the most to them is, ‘Do we have a chance here to do what our ultimate goals are?’
“Which is to win Big Ten and national championships. My job is to make sure we’re providing them with the resources …”
(source: Scott Richey, News-Gazette, April 11 2024)
It'll be fun to see if he turns them down again.
OrangeBlue98
- Des Moines, IA
Some coach is going to get more money out of Kentucky with the way this is playing out.
F**k it I’ll say it. I’m freaking out
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
68 years old.
Pearl is 64, Brad is 60.
I really hope Barnhart thinks BU is too old.
I think it would be hilarious if all Division 1 coaches were on a private message board and agreed not to take the Kentucky job!
Welcome, Juwan Howard, you are all we could get...don't slap anyone this 1st year
Welcome, Juwan Howard, you are all we could get...don't slap anyone this 1st year
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
FWIW, these were the 25 highest paid coaches before the carousel took off, at least per USA Today. I'm using the "Total Pay" column.
1. Bill Self (Kansas): $9.7 million
2. John Calipari (Kentucky): $8.5 million
3. Tom Izzo (Michigan State): $6.2 million
4. Bruce Pearl (Auburn): $5.7 million
5. Rick Barnes (Tennessee): $5.7 million
6. Scott Drew (Baylor): $5.1 million
7. Dan Hurley (UConn): $5.0 million
8. Brad Underwood (Illinois): $4.7 million
9. Kelvin Sampson (Houston): $4.6 million
10. Nate Oats (Alabama): $4.5 million
11. Buzz Williams (Texas A&M): $4.5 million
12. Eric Musselman (Arkansas): $4.2 million
13. Mike Woodson (Indiana): $4.2 million
14. Mick Cronin (UCLA): $4.1 million
15. Tommy Lloyd (Arizona): $4.1 million
16. Tony Bennett (Virginia): $4.0 million
17. Dennis Gates (Missouri): $4.0 million
18. Dana Altman (Oregon): $4.0 million
19. Kevin Willard (Maryland): $4.0 million
20. Jamie Dixon (TCU): $3.8 million
21. Andy Enfield (USC): $3.8 million
22. Greg Gard (Wisconsin): $3.8 million
23. Juwan Howard (Michigan): $3.8 million
24. Matt Painter (Purdue): $3.7 million
25. Jeff Capel (Pitt): $3.6 million
Notes on some new hires:
- There were rumors that Kentucky offered Dan Hurly $11 million per year, which would easily be #1 in the nation ... that's nuts if true.
- John Calipari (Arkansas) will start at $7 million, which would be good for #3 on that list.
- Dusty May (Michigan) will start $3.6 million, which would be good for barely top 25.
- I cannot find a number for Eric Musselman (USC), but I doubt he took a pay cut below $4.2 million (#12 on the list).
- I also cannot find a number for Andy Enfield (SMU), but it looks like he made above $4.5 million at USC? USC doesn't release this type of data.
So...
I guess the question is, if it got to this point, how much would Kentucky offer Brad? And how high could we go to match? I highly doubt Brad gets the Hurly offer ... but does he get an offer of $6 million or more? That seems highly likely. Looking back, it looks like we gave him a 12% raise compared to what his previous contract would have had him making in 2024. Another 12% would put him in the $5.3 million. You'd think we'd be more than willing to get up to $6 million ... the question is how far we can battle up into $7 million and above.
Assuming Brad is happy enough at a job like Illinois with elite compensation, it becomes a really interesting question of where the "middle point" with Kentucky would be where (A) they wouldn't want to go much higher for Underwood and (B) Illinois could match.
1. Bill Self (Kansas): $9.7 million
2. John Calipari (Kentucky): $8.5 million
3. Tom Izzo (Michigan State): $6.2 million
4. Bruce Pearl (Auburn): $5.7 million
5. Rick Barnes (Tennessee): $5.7 million
6. Scott Drew (Baylor): $5.1 million
7. Dan Hurley (UConn): $5.0 million
8. Brad Underwood (Illinois): $4.7 million
9. Kelvin Sampson (Houston): $4.6 million
10. Nate Oats (Alabama): $4.5 million
11. Buzz Williams (Texas A&M): $4.5 million
12. Eric Musselman (Arkansas): $4.2 million
13. Mike Woodson (Indiana): $4.2 million
14. Mick Cronin (UCLA): $4.1 million
15. Tommy Lloyd (Arizona): $4.1 million
16. Tony Bennett (Virginia): $4.0 million
17. Dennis Gates (Missouri): $4.0 million
18. Dana Altman (Oregon): $4.0 million
19. Kevin Willard (Maryland): $4.0 million
20. Jamie Dixon (TCU): $3.8 million
21. Andy Enfield (USC): $3.8 million
22. Greg Gard (Wisconsin): $3.8 million
23. Juwan Howard (Michigan): $3.8 million
24. Matt Painter (Purdue): $3.7 million
25. Jeff Capel (Pitt): $3.6 million
Notes on some new hires:
- There were rumors that Kentucky offered Dan Hurly $11 million per year, which would easily be #1 in the nation ... that's nuts if true.
- John Calipari (Arkansas) will start at $7 million, which would be good for #3 on that list.
- Dusty May (Michigan) will start $3.6 million, which would be good for barely top 25.
- I cannot find a number for Eric Musselman (USC), but I doubt he took a pay cut below $4.2 million (#12 on the list).
- I also cannot find a number for Andy Enfield (SMU), but it looks like he made above $4.5 million at USC? USC doesn't release this type of data.
So...
I guess the question is, if it got to this point, how much would Kentucky offer Brad? And how high could we go to match? I highly doubt Brad gets the Hurly offer ... but does he get an offer of $6 million or more? That seems highly likely. Looking back, it looks like we gave him a 12% raise compared to what his previous contract would have had him making in 2024. Another 12% would put him in the $5.3 million. You'd think we'd be more than willing to get up to $6 million ... the question is how far we can battle up into $7 million and above.
Assuming Brad is happy enough at a job like Illinois with elite compensation, it becomes a really interesting question of where the "middle point" with Kentucky would be where (A) they wouldn't want to go much higher for Underwood and (B) Illinois could match.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
If Brad’s agent is any good, he’d get at least $7M out of UK to start.
I wonder if that restaurant that got all those weird 5 star reviews from BBN is gonna see those changed to 1 star.
I know that money talks, but after that release that went out about him being dedicated to Alabama and dedicated to them winning a national championship....how could he ever walk that back? The optics there would be awful.
The perception (and reality) would be that he it was purely a money grab and he didn't care where he coached as long as the salary and NIL dollars are there.
Now, I'm not disagreeing with him if that was the ultimate motivator, but wow.....if he failed at Kentucky, his word would mean nothing.
For the youngsters on the board....this is why you never put things in writing and stay off of social media!
Can you tell him to fix that damn camera angle at their new place.
Never write it down, and don't record (audio or visual) ANYTHING.
sacraig
- The desert
"How would you like to be the wealthiest person in Kentucky?"
Agree - Pearl is a POS, but he's a POS that is a heck of a coach. And he has a big enough personality that he would thrive in Lexington
Why, in God's green earth, would he even consider making the move? He's built an absolute powerhouse that even Kentucky can't compete with. He's a legend there. Why start over? Money? I can't imagine that a contract with UCONN is going to have him wondering where his next meal would be coming from.
To me, Kentucky is a downgrade to where he's currently at, but hey....maybe rebuilding historical powerhouses is a motivator?
there is an incredible amount of "old money" in Lexington.
That’s been the knock on them as the cause of their recent lack of success. Roster is talented, but too young. The calipari one and done model isn’t working anymore, so they were expected to hit the portal.
Additionally, the model also wasn’t meant for players to graduate, it was meant to get them to the nba.
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