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djkirkpatrick22
Indy Illini Fan said:
K State is not a downgrade financially for Brad or NIL wise …

From what I was told this AM … They are prepared to more or less match what he makes here and they already have more NIL than we do and if they bring Brad back … That number is only going to increase …
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How does K State have that much more in NIL than us? I know they're not a poverty program, but I just feel like we're (were) on a different tier than them...? No intel on this, just gut feeling of course.
 
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SampsonRelpenk
NarrowJ said:
This is what keeps worrying me

I keep hearing about this random program and that random program 'they have more NIL than we do'

So with NIL are we top 10? 20?

Someone posted a link to a poll of current sitting college basketball coaches and that had us somewhere around #10, but I've heard 'they have more NIL than we do' about so many programs now that there is just no way we are top 10 in NIL if we are looking up at St John's, BYU, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Oregon, IU and so on and then you have all of the blue blood schools as well

Though we obviously were able to buy enough talent this year (regardless of that talent having been wasted at this point)
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I've been having the exact same thoughts. I think the real answer is that no one really knows for certain, and it varies from year to year.
 
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PleaseMakeABowlGame
NarrowJ said:
This is what keeps worrying me

I keep hearing about this random program and that random program 'they have more NIL than we do'

So with NIL are we top 10? 20?

Someone posted a link to a poll of current sitting college basketball coaches and that had us somewhere around #10, but I've heard 'they have more NIL than we do' about so many programs now that there is just no way we are top 10 in NIL if we are looking up at St John's, BYU, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Oregon, IU and so on and then you have all of the blue blood schools as well

Though we obviously were able to buy enough talent this year (regardless of that talent having been wasted at this point)
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We're second in the big ten (allegedly). only to IU.
 
#31      
Heisenbobble
WyattEarp said:
The lucrative world of Bull Semen.
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NarrowJ
PleaseMakeABowlGame said:
We're second in the big ten (allegedly). only to IU.
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How would we have more than Oregon? Don't they have Nike money?

Magic Johnson is providing MSU with 'unlimited' NIL resources, per a recent report

I'm going to go ahead and doubt we have more than Michigan or Ohio State as well given their alumni/fan base

How does UCLA not have huge donors?

I'd guess we are more middle of the pack, but what do I know? (hint: nothing at all)
 
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sacraig
Indy Illini Fan said:
It’s partly because what other program is gonna pay him $900k+ a year …
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That, of course, begs the question of whether he is actually worth $900k per year. He's obviously a great recruiter, but if that doesn't translate into results, what good is it? He's been great at coaching big men, but is that worth that kind of money or should we be devoting more of our finite-sized pie to a coach or coaches that understand offense and defense?
 
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the juiceman cometh
Indy Illini Fan said:
K State is not a downgrade financially for Brad or NIL wise …

From what I was told this AM … They are prepared to more or less match what he makes here and they already have more NIL than we do and if they bring Brad back … That number is only going to increase …
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I'm trying to square this with statements I think you have made in the past where you've said we are top-10 NIL. I find it kind of hard to believe K-State is top 10 in the country in NIL.
 
#39      
Illini in Italy
Fly Illini Fly! said:
Point being... it seemed (to my fairly uneducated perception at least) that he was fairly happy with his time here, situation and what he has built... after coming off the E8 last year.

It is one bad year (but not terrible - this isn't like Michigan last year), but seems like times and heads have drastically changed.

I guess his agents exploring these options just say it all...
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Much of the angst is bulletin board fodder, people just have to say something . . . And it's not just us. College basketball is getting to the point where coaches will no longer be welcome if they have even just one bad year (or even just a bad month).
 
#40      
sacraig
djkirkpatrick22 said:
How does K State have that much more in NIL than us? I know they're not a poverty program, but I just feel like we're (were) on a different tier than them...? No intel on this, just gut feeling of course.
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Maybe it's just due to the level of excitement that Brad would generate specifically with KState donors/alumni as one of their own? Ultimately, NIL is a function of both the donors to a program and their willing to donate. Maybe Brad just maximizes the hell out of the KState donor base. If we had the right coach come after him, that person could possibly do even better than Brad already does at NIL here. Who knows?
 
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sbillini
NarrowJ said:
How would we have more than Oregon? Don't they have Nike money?

Magic Johnson is providing MSU with 'unlimited' NIL resources, per a recent report

I'm going to go ahead and doubt we have more than Michigan or Ohio State as well given their alumni/fan base

How does UCLA not have huge donors?

I'd guess we are more middle of the pack, but what do I know? (hint: nothing at all)
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From what I hear on UCLA, it's more of a institutional dynamic. The donors are there, but the school (i think schools as it's an issue across the public state schools) hamper the ability to raise NIL funds. Essentially an institutional bias against college sports and a reason (if not the main reason) why Brian Kelly bailed to be a coordinator at tOSU.

More broadly, though, I think the whole NIL world is still very much the wild west. I wouldn't be surprised if promises are being made on the fly and who knows how things actually play out (e.g. how NIL promises are made to players and it may or may not play out). It's not a transparent enough system to get a real sense of who stands where.
 
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the juiceman cometh
sbillini said:
From what I hear on UCLA, it's more of a institutional dynamic. The donors are there, but the school (i think schools as it's an issue across the public state schools) hamper the ability to raise NIL funds. Essentially an institutional bias against college sports and a reason (if not the main reason) why Brian Kelly bailed to be a coordinator at tOSU.

More broadly, though, I think the whole NIL world is still very much the wild west. I wouldn't be surprised if promises are being made on the fly and who knows how things actually play out (e.g. how NIL promises are made to players and it may or may not play out). It's not a transparent enough system to get a real sense of who stands where.
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#48      
sacraig
sbillini said:
From what I hear on UCLA, it's more of a institutional dynamic. The donors are there, but the school (i think schools as it's an issue across the public state schools) hamper the ability to raise NIL funds. Essentially an institutional bias against college sports and a reason (if not the main reason) why Brian Kelly bailed to be a coordinator at tOSU.

More broadly, though, I think the whole NIL world is still very much the wild west. I wouldn't be surprised if promises are being made on the fly and who knows how things actually play out (e.g. how NIL promises are made to players and it may or may not play out). It's not a transparent enough system to get a real sense of who stands where.
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