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There is something to be said about grabbing a guy that was a better basketball player to fill out the assistant coaching staff if you're looking for a developmental guy.
For one its lends some credentials and there is probably some innate respect there when you're interacting/recruiting high school and college kids when you can point out the fact that you played at a high level.
Im not saying Harrington would be the guy but there would also be something to getting a guy that played professionally and can pass that down to younger guys that are trying to get there.
If you're hiring a coach with no coaching experience why not get a guy like James Augustine who played a professionally for over a decade? Or even someone like Trent Meacham? Wouldn't even need to be a former Illinois player
Was he supposed to throw anyone under the bus 30 minutes after a tournament loss? Those things stay "in house" and is how a boss with any sort of class whatsoever handles things.
USAFILLINI
- Florida
Because he's Brad's son, I imagine the consensus is that he only got the job due to nepotism. In my opinion, as long as he's still under his dad's wing, that shadow will follow him. Why not consider getting him a role at a mid-major school where he can build his career on his own? Why aren’t schools actively trying to hire him if he is such an offensive guru?
Down the stretch, our offense was brutal. We ranked at the top of the NCAA in three-pointers but were at the bottom in makes. Our offensive performance seemed to worsen as the season went on. Additionally, historic defeats have occurred under Tyler’s watch—like the 30-0 run against UConn and the Massacre at Madison.
Down the stretch, our offense was brutal. We ranked at the top of the NCAA in three-pointers but were at the bottom in makes. Our offensive performance seemed to worsen as the season went on. Additionally, historic defeats have occurred under Tyler’s watch—like the 30-0 run against UConn and the Massacre at Madison.
Krueger hired an assistant with no coaching experience after playing for a few years in Europe and he didn't work out. Let some lower level team hire guys with no experience to see if they like to coach or can coach. Illinois shouldn't be a training program ie: Hamer.
I'd start by saying that we're off to a great start with Boswell, White and Ivisic already committing to next season. It sounds like Morez is pretty close, if not already done. That's four starters returning. That's a LOT better situation than nobody returning last year. With that being the case, NOW you can supplement the roster using the portal versus building it from scratch. You're bringing back older guys, with continuity, a year under their belt and expectations from day 1. You don't have to search for a leader next year.
I'd say we're in a pretty good spot. How we came into the 2024-2025 season should never happen again.
blackdog
- Champaign
Such a huge over simplification of the offense. They added so much with Tomi being a facilitator and doing more back cuts as the year went on. Also running a lot more offense through Will and Kylan. The biggest problem was lack of practice time to implement new sets. So far in two years we've actually seen major changes to the offense as the year has progressed.
Marvin knows . . . . .Marvin knows . . . . .
Tyler makes $120k. There's not many schools paying that amount to their last AC. I'm not sure the top AC at a mid-major makes that much.
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
They won me over when they went to Kansas to support TSJ at his trial. Now my favorite B12 team, and results like this don't hurt either:
Tyler @120k doesn't seem to be the issue. Yes, he almost certainly got the job through nepotism. His results have been pretty good. The booty ball worked. The 5 out with shooters wasn't a bad plan -- if you have the advertised shooters. The heavy cuts that were added later with Tomi as the point center was excellent. It looks like we are getting Tomi/Morez/Tre/KB back. That means the offense can build on this years results. Add a sniper and this could easily be a top 10 offense. Getting even a top 30 offense for 120k seems like a very good deal in todays market. How much are we looking to spend on a good defensive coach?
Tyler is also probably much better than anyone else at judging his father's moods, and knowing how to "bring him around." This likely smooths things across the program, and not just the offense.
The only issue I can see is if Tyler allows his friendship with Hamer to interfere with sound business decisions.
Just a wild guess, but I think Tyler will be ok money wise…daddy is worth 10’s of millions. Tyler would survive making 70-80k for a couple years to get experience in this situation.
I've heard a rumor that Hamer may stay on in a reduced roll. I'm unsure about that. I saw a bunch of promotions past abilities in the tech field during the tech boom. Corrections within the company rarely worked, especially if there was an accompanying financial correction; Hamer isn't worth 100k of budget IMO. With another 5-10 years of experience, Hamer may turn out to be great. He needs time to learn to mesh theory (data) with reality (experience). The latter is critical for making in game adjustments.
How much do you suppose Brad made as an assistant at Western all those years. I’m pretty sure Tyler would survive just fine few a few years. It would be worth it in the long run for him.
Assistant coaches at mid majors are making 100k. Even mid majors that don't typically have much success.
Source: I know and played with some guys that are now assistants and coaching salaries at public institutions are public information.
IMHO the Illini offense was good, but out of balance. For the year, they averaged 1.13 pts for each 2 point shot taken; .94 for each 3 taken. In a random comparison: Wisconsin 1.1 (2) and 1.04 (3); UK 1.11 and 1.23; Purdue 1.1 and 1.15; Bama 1.2 and 1.05. The one team I found similar was MSU at 1.07 and .93. But, MSU is a much better defensive team, and they took 10 less 3s per game than the Illini. Some adjustment needs to be made toward a more balanced approach, whether it is less reliance on 3s, better 3 point shooters, or a team with a much stronger defense to cover the imbalance.
Then they should hire Moser. He would fit right in.
Oversimplification that turns out to be accurate against good teams. Shoot poorly from 3 and lose.
Agree. The other problem is that he's basically limited to what he's learned from dad. And I don't think Brad is a great offensive coach.
Never said he should’ve thrown someone under the bus. It was a simple question about Indy’s asst coach post and the fact that Brad was gushing about his current coaching staff. Sorry to ruffle so many feathers.
People give way too much weight into coach PR speak. You shouldn’t over analyze it - he’s always trying to cut off bad narratives and peanut butter spread over negative storylines - especially after a NCAA tourney season ending loss.
ptgrd23
- orange county CA
We were too young (started 3 freshman and 2 juniors). Our bench was short and inexperienced 1 freshman (Morez) 1 grad (Ben) 2 soph (DGL, Jake).
Only 1 returning player so team had no experience playing together. Keep Dain, Ty, Luke, Amani and Sencire and there is a great core. It means you don't take Carey and you choose between Ben and Tre (20/20 hindsight Tre). You still could add Tomas and either KJ or Will. I hope Brad learned his lesson and does not bring in 10 new players in one year again. You can tell I am not big fan of 5 out offense.
If our core comes back and we add some experience (I want seniors or grad) we could be very good. Shame KJ or Will won't stick around. If either came back I think we would be ranked in top 15.
I wish it was.
I cannot fathom a world where this dude remains on the staff in any capacity, let alone staying Illinois' DC.
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