Coaching Carousel (Basketball)

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Indy Illini Fan
Joel Goodson said:
youngblood has positioned himself very, very well. he's gonna have HC options. guessing he's gonna leave the nest

will add that I think that's a great idea, because he needs to be in charge and build a track record
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Couldn’t agree more … And SFA would be a PERFECT spot …

I just don’t want him to leave for a crap job that doesn’t have the right things in place … Has to be the right fit and he knows that …
 
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Iloveorangekoolaid
Indy Illini Fan said:
Kansas State search is a mess but it won’t be Schertz … I think it’ll likely be Casey Alexander …

Hodgson will have his pick of a handful of places … Syracuse makes a lot of sense if they can get everything in alignment for him …

The Randy Bennett rumors make no sense to me … Think he stays put …

Calhoun to Cincy makes too much sense …

If Braeuer is able to take a better job … Don’t rule out Tyler at SFA …
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Does Bennett leave because the WCC is imploding and turning into a one bid league most likely? They need to get into the new PAC-12.
 
#29      
Illiniforlife
Kansas is a top 3 job in the sport …

In my opinion it’s really Kansas, Kentucky, and Duke in that upper tier …
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I really believe that, given how college athletics works now, coaching decisions come down to two main factors: where a coach wants to live and how strong the NIL support is. For example, would someone prefer to live in Lawrence or Ann Arbor? Lexington or Tuscaloosa?

That’s why I don’t see Illinois as a top-tier job at the moment. Champaign simply isn’t a place most coaches would choose based on lifestyle alone, and our NIL resources are second-tier—possibly even third-tier—compared to other major programs.

As frustrated as I get with Brad at times, I don’t think we could realistically hire someone better under the current circumstances. Unfortunately, we just don’t have the donor base or NIL backing to compete at that level.
 
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Fighter of the Nightman
EmeraldCityIllini said:
If i were an Arizona fan, i'd be livid if I lost Lloyd - for any job. I'd like to think Zona was a great enough program, even if it is Kanas, that that wouldn't be an issue. Also, Zona took a gamble on Lloyd. I know he was highly regarded, but he still went to a job like Arizona from an assistant role. Not that Lloyd should take a pay cut because of that, but id think if money was equal...

Dusty May leaving for Kansas would be a dream. All 11 Michigan basketball fans would be devastated
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I get what you are saying, in that I think more than ever there is a good argument for a coach to stay put at a good program rather than start over at a Blue Blood. However, allow me to go on a tangent that is not directed at you, lol.

I continue to be surprised at what a reputation Arizona enjoys nationally ... my theory is that they have mostly been on an island out there with UCLA over the last 25+ years, and the perception of their prestige has been inflated nationally. I'm not saying you are doing this at all (I would also VERY much agree that Arizona was a "great enough program," let's be clear!), but they often get talked about like they're a whiff away from a Blue Blood ... but just look at how they compare to us historically.

All-Time Winning Percentage: ARI .666, ILL .643
National Championships: ARI 1, ILL 0
Final Fours: ILL 5, ARI 4
Elite Eights: ARI 11, ILL 10
Sweet Sixteens: ARI 20, ILL 14
NCAAT Appearances: ILL 35, ARI 35
Weeks in AP Poll: ARI 634, ILL 536
AP Top 25 Finishes: ARI 32, ILL 30

Would I rank Arizona ahead of us as an all-time program? Yes. Would I say it's a better job? Very debatable, but I would be fine with "in the same ballpark." But they are much closer to our stratosphere than Kansas by a country mile, at least if you are going by all-time history. I mean hell, people give the Big Ten SO much crap for not winning a National Championship since 2000, but Arizona hasn't made a Final Four since 2001 and we hardly ever hear about that drought! The following programs have all made at least one since then.

Alabama
Auburn
Baylor
Butler
Duke
Georgia Tech
FAU
Florida
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Gonzaga
Houston
Illinois
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisville
Loyola Chicago
LSU
Marquette
Maryland
Miami (FL)
Michigan
Michigan State
NC State
North Carolina
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Oregon
Purdue
San Diego State
South Carolina
Syracuse
Texas
Texas Tech
UCLA
UConn
VCU
Villanova
Virginia
West Virginia
Wichita State
Wisconsin

I'm of course being tongue in cheek here a little, as Arizona has been a much better program than a lot of schools on that list ... but if some people were as intent on hating on Arizona as much as they are on Illinois, they would say ridiculous things like "Arizona is at least behind every school on that list over this period." 🤪
 
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EmeraldCityIllini
Fighter of the Nightman said:
I get what you are saying, in that I think more than ever there is a good argument for a coach to stay put at a good program rather than start over at a Blue Blood. However, allow me to go on a tangent that is not directed at you, lol.

I continue to be surprised at what a reputation Arizona enjoys nationally ... my theory is that they have mostly been on an island out there with UCLA over the last 25+ years, and the perception of their prestige has been inflated nationally. I'm not saying you are doing this at all (I would also VERY much agree that Arizona was a "great enough program," let's be clear!), but they often get talked about like they're a whiff away from a Blue Blood ... but just look at how they compare to us historically.

All-Time Winning Percentage: ARI .666, ILL .643
National Championships: ARI 1, ILL 0
Final Fours: ILL 5, ARI 4
Elite Eights: ARI 11, ILL 10
Sweet Sixteens: ARI 20, ILL 14
NCAAT Appearances: ILL 35, ARI 35
Weeks in AP Poll: ARI 634, ILL 536
AP Top 25 Finishes: ARI 32, ILL 30

Would I rank Arizona ahead of us as an all-time program? Yes. Would I say it's a better job? Very debatable, but I would be fine with "in the same ballpark." But they are much closer to our stratosphere than Kansas by a country mile, at least if you are going by all-time history. I mean hell, people give the Big Ten SO much crap for not winning a National Championship since 2000, but Arizona hasn't made a Final Four since 2001 and we hardly ever hear about that drought!

I'm of course being tongue in cheek here a little, as Arizona has been a much better program than a lot of schools on that list ... but if some people were as intent on hating on Arizona as much as they are on Illinois, they would say ridiculous things like "Arizona is at least behind every school on that list over this period." 🤪
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I 1000% agree Arizona is closer to Illinois than Arizona is to Kansas. And Lloyd specifically has some March demons of his own he needs to address. To your point, WE GET SOME MUCH MORE FLACK for losing to comically underseeded #9 Loyola than Arizona does for losing to #15 seed Princeton in round 1 - part of that is our own bellyaching though, it's time we get over it.

To be clear though, given where Illinois is at with resources, I'd personally be disappointed if we lost any Men's bball coach to any program - so I i feel that for Arizona too. I get Duke, Kentucky, Kansas - especially for Kansas in our case with the Underwood ties. But even then, I'd feel atleast a twinge of frustration.
 
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mhuml32
Iloveorangekoolaid said:
Didn’t they just announce a new chancellor? And the new AD is supposed to be announced next week?
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Yes, until last week they didn't have a president/chancellor, AD, or deputy AD. The top internal candidate for the AD job was accused in their student newspaper of wrongdoing. Good luck getting all of those people up-to-speed and aligned on a coaching search for their most popular sport.
 
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Heisenbobble
#41      
whatahack
Chillinini said:
Schertz knows better. SLU now is in a better place than K State. I’m talking alumni, donor support, nice facilities, good AD. Not talking conferences.
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SLU has been actively pursuing joining the Big East, but obviously not yet
 
#43      
IllianaOne
Indy Illini Fan said:
Kansas State search is a mess but it won’t be Schertz … I think it’ll likely be Casey Alexander …

Hodgson will have his pick of a handful of places … Syracuse makes a lot of sense if they can get everything in alignment for him …

The Randy Bennett rumors make no sense to me … Think he stays put …

Calhoun to Cincy makes too much sense …

If Braeuer is able to take a better job … Don’t rule out Tyler at SFA …
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Do you think Schertz ends up somewhere new? As a Sycamore grad I want to see St Louis get screwed over 😂!
 
#45      
IllinitripleJ
If I was Scherz I would stay with SLU unless I got a really really good Power 5 job. And if SLU joins the Big East and gets he a huge contract and he likes St. Louis then you stay at SLU. Maybe if a job like Illinois, Michigan (if May goes to Kansas) or Sparty opens up you take it. But I certainly would not take the K State /Missour/Georgia type of jobs.
 
#46      
Bigtex
Indy Illini Fan said:
Kansas State search is a mess but it won’t be Schertz … I think it’ll likely be Casey Alexander …

Hodgson will have his pick of a handful of places … Syracuse makes a lot of sense if they can get everything in alignment for him …

The Randy Bennett rumors make no sense to me … Think he stays put …

Calhoun to Cincy makes too much sense …

If Braeuer is able to take a better job … Don’t rule out Tyler at SFA …
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No idea if any of this is accurate or plays out but one of the reasons this place is tops for basketball info.

Keep the coaching, recruiting and transfer portal stuff flowing @Indy Illini Fan
 
#47      
OrangeBlue98
Dusty May leaving for Kansas would be a dream. All 11 Michigan basketball fans would be devastated
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And that's why May would be nuts to leave Michigan. It's almost an ideal job. Massive resources, lots of brand equity, the legitimate ability to contend for a national championiship, and comparatively little pressure because everyone at Michigan cares about football first.

Regarding what Indy Illini Fan mentioned about Tyler, I would imagine his stock has to be pretty high right now when it comes to current assistants with no head coaching experience. I get it - he's young. But he's also been the primary coordinator of a consistently great offense and his involvement with Keaton Wagler has to be enticing for programs that know they need to find diamonds in the rough. I'd imagine Tyler will probably be reasonably picky (his dad will undoubtedly counsel him in a similar manner) and not take a position where he doesn't feel he can be set up to succeed.

I could think of worse career situations than to work for your dad (who has significant job security) at a Big Ten program and show you are good at what you do, so I don't see him taking "just another mid-major or low-major" job.
 
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