Coaching Carousel (Basketball)

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BryceHopkins
Indy Illini Fan said:
I don’t disagree on UNC …

Kansas people are just so adamant to me that they’re getting one of May or Lloyd … No matter the cost … And what Kansas wants … They typically get …

I’ve mentioned it on here but I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Schertz has gone silent on other jobs … If May leaves for Kansas or NBA … He’s going to tell Michigan to go get his buddy …

Wade is leaving for LSU … It’s a done deal … NC State I’ve heard is likely to look at Schertz, Shaheen, Richey and Justin Gainey …
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NC State seems like it would be a really tough job. Best case scenario, you're 3rd fiddle in your own state and I can't imagine their available NIL dollars put them anywhere better than middle of the pack in their conference and light years behind the two in-state big dogs.
 
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Indy Illini Fan
LOT of chatter out there that this could happen for UNC …

Ncaa Basketball Thumbs Up GIF by NCAA March Madness


Others in the mix: May, Lloyd

Tier 3 … Otz, Byington …

May could use it to get more out of Michigan … He’s certainly actively flirting with CBB and NBA jobs …

Lloyd isn’t making it a secret he expects more from Arizona and they need to deliver or he’s open to other opportunities …

Otz is a unique fit at Carolina … I don’t see it … But I’ve been told they like him …

Bynington … It could get this far but I doubt it …

Oats & Golden are NOT being considered by UNC …
 
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#680      
Mr. Tibbs
is reinsdorff selling the team.... no. then nothing changes
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yup agree

nothing changes until Jerry sells or passes away.
And if he passes away, not sure the son changes anything
 
#682      
anflessner
Question about Scheyer to the Bulls in the Stevens coach/front office model? How does that work?

Karnisovas would have to hire him as coach, right? He was just extended in June on 2025. Is he going to give up some of his duties to give to Scheyer? Or give him a timeline where he could takeover? Or does Scheyer just coach so darn great he is given the front office role? But if the team improves Karnisovas would be given some credit too. Stevens coached the Celtics for EIGHT years before getting the front office role. Is Scheyer just wanting to get a foot in the door as a head coach and hoping he shows enough for a chance at a front office role with the Bulls or another NBA franchise? Stevens had Ainge retire. Karnisovas shows no desire to leave. And if things are so bad Karnisovas is fired, how does Scheyer then get promoted to GM. It is the dysfuctional Bulls, so you never know.

I think Scheyer wanting the Stevens career track would be a hope. He is getting hired as a coach. He would have to do well and then have some dominoes fall his way for the 2nd part to happen.
 
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#686      
Mapman
I think he’d be on the list … He’s in the family but he’s also like not the brotherhood because he didn’t play there … Duke is weird about that stuff …

He had an incredible first year … Rising star …
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Pretty amazing job by Lucas to reach this level of status while not hitting puberty yet 😎.
 
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ChiefGritty
Illiniguy13 said:
I'm afraid the only entity eventually coming to save the Bulls from being held hostage is the grim reaper
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Even that means nothing, Michael is just as bad.

anflessner said:
Question about Scheyer to the Bulls in the Stevens coach/front office model? How does that work?
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It doesn't. It would be a terrible career move for Scheyer.

IlliniwekKDR said:
If that happened and the dominoes pulled Scheyer away from Duke, I can't imagine a better present if you're a UNC fan
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Donovan is a good basketball coach and I can see his profile working at UNC, I can see the case for optimism there.

But still, this is a guy who last coached a college basketball game during the Obama Administration. The appeal is fundamentally about his unavailability and exclusivity more than actual proven suitability for the radically changed world of today's college sports. It's a higher-risk hire than a May or Lloyd would be without question.
 
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Illini 993
ChiefGritty said:
First as an assistant and then as a head coach Scheyer completely changed Duke's program into the apex predator for one-and-done HS recruits, which was never previously Coach K's philosophy in a way that had their talent level on the decline.

That doesn't really translate to NBA coaching at all, but I do think Scheyer is a transformational figure in Duke's history, not just the guy that happened to win the job to succeed Coach K.

But then that makes it even weirder that he'd want to leave. I bet he stays.
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Duke had 26 one and done players before Scheyer was named coach, with Corey Maggette in 1999 being the first.
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Stacking up All 26 Duke Basketball One-And-Dones in History

This ranking is of the 26 Duke basketball players who have turned pro following a freshman campaign in Durham.
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ChiefGritty
Illini 993 said:
Duke had 26 one and done players before Scheyer was named coach, with Corey Maggette in 1999 being the first.
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Stacking up All 26 Duke Basketball One-And-Dones in History

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Gosh, duh on Maggette and Deng.

But Scheyer returned to the program in 2014, he was the one recruiting most of those guys listed.

This was a big and unexpected deal at the time, Duke becoming a "Calipari-style program", and many observed the irony that it was spearheaded by Scheyer, the living embodiment of the program's prior recruiting focus of "annoying overrated four-year white kids".
 
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FloorGeneral
ChiefGritty said:
I believe Kyrie Irving was the first one-and-done K ever had and as of Scheyer's hiring there had only been a couple. Even with recruiting services colossally, laughably overrating Duke's signees every year, they were no longer competing for the tippy-top caliber of player most of the time in the late aughts early 2010's as the Calipari's of the world reinvented the recruiting game.

As late as 2013 that was a program solely built around four-year guys. Quinn Cook, Seth Curry, Rasheed Suliamon, Ryan Kelly and Mason Plumlee was their starting five that year, and it was a place where someone like Austin Rivers didn't really fit.

That all changed when Scheyer came back. He changed the philosophy into a team that would be a platform to highlight the Jayson Tatum's and Zion Williamson's.
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I think it might have been Corey Maggette
 
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IlliniwekKDR
ChiefGritty said:
Even that means nothing, Michael is just as bad.


It doesn't. It would be a terrible career move for Scheyer.


Donovan is a good basketball coach and I can see his profile working at UNC, I can see the case for optimism there.

But still, this is a guy who last coached a college basketball game during the Obama Administration. The appeal is fundamentally about his unavailability and exclusivity more than actual proven suitability for the radically changed world of today's college sports. It's a higher-risk hire than a May or Lloyd would be without question.
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True, and I have no idea what kind of success he has had in the NBA recently. Until this week, I assumed he was still in OKC
 
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