TentakilRex
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In one way, should a governor get involved? In another way, the current AD hired Kelly andd Jimbo Fisher at A&M.
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He hired him but did not give him the inflated extension. Just hiring Jimbo isn't that crazy IMO.. he was bringing in top recruiting classes and did win alot of games.
Also, though I get the Governor's point....Who does he think hired the AD to begin with?...and they want that same Board of Trustees to hire the coach?
Even if he’s offered 20 million a year Indiana would have to match it
Why do you believe this? Do you think there's any amount of money that would make IU's boosters say "Too rich for my blood. I guess we're ok going back to functionally not having a football program?"
LSU football might want Cignetti but Cignetti is not a requirement for LSU football being good again. Cignetti is a requirement for Indiana in the sense that there is a 99.9% chance they'll slip back into irrelevance if he leaves now. If it comes down to a staring contest over money, Indiana is never blinking.
I get the chance for a Natty, ...but what currently successful coach sees this dysfunction and leaves a stable role without a similarly guaranteed contract as Kelly?
I also don't get what leverage LSU has on the buy out that they're 'negotiating' it still. Am I missing something or is this guy a blowhard?
Gov. Jeff Landry critical of AD Scott Woodward amid LSU shake-up
Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry told reporters Wednesday that LSU athletic director Scott Woodward won't be involved in selecting the Tigers' new football coach in the wake of Brian Kelly's firing.www.espn.com
Good to see the governor of Louisiana is focused on the important issues
I'm not sure annual dollars is the best way to look at it. Cignetti's new IU contract is fully guaranteed - and these schools all just paid massive buyouts. Lincoln's with USC ofcourse would be massive as well.
They obvioulsy have money, but if you're LSU, PSU, Florida can you really be risking another catastrophic buyout again? And if you can, how much more can you make it then cignetti's current $93.5 million buyout at Indiana? Which assumes Indiana wouldn't go higher to begin with - which i doubt.
I agree i think having such a late bye week didn't do us no favors.however this prevent defense just dont work with the lack of creativity no pass rush if Henry isn't replaced at the least I fully expect Bret to get more involved cause 40 points a game in big ten play isn't going to win us much if any games especially next season when we dont have Luke.Henry was a good db coach I just truly dont think hes DC material at this time I know we can do better
He**. Some people think it would be time well spent to have Congress get involved in settling college athletic issues. Utter nonsense.
Matt Rhule out of the running for Penn State coaching vacancy with reported contract extension at Nebraska
Matt Rhule has reportedly signed a contract extension that will keep him at Nebraska through at least 2030.
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Matt Rhule out of the running for Penn State coaching vacancy with reported contract extension at Nebraska
Matt Rhule has reportedly signed a contract extension that will keep him at Nebraska through at least 2030.
Nebraska blinked.
Exactly. That posters on here believe Illinois is immune from crazy donor expectations is either cute or sad. Do I think Bret is in jeopardy of losing his job? No. But twice recently the Illini FB team has entered a season with pretty high expectations and not lived up to those expectations. To think that at some point Bret will need to get the program through the next step isn’t crazy. Donors (and fan bases) are fickle — especially when someone in your own neighborhood both geographically and recent “success” of program turns it around and is living up to big expectations this year. Would be naive to think people won’t start saying “why not us” at some point and look for answers. And we know what the next step is when that happens. The article is very premature, but I’m sure there are some donors wondering why we’re 13th in conference behind Northwestern and a UCLA team that has already fired its coach.
To be clear, I don’t think Bret is or should be on the hot seat. Win next four and all (most?) will be forgiven, and we’re looking at two successful back to back seasons. Lose one of those, and things aren’t as rosy in the eyes of some. As ridiculous as it seems to me, at what point is Bret seen only as the guy who steadied the ship and built a solid foundation for success, and not the guy who can take program to the next step?
We are all looking at Indiana and asking: "Why not us?" I'm sure the donors are too.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
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I absolutely see Riley pulling an Alford and taking a soft landing job. Not sure where, but I think he sees the writing on the wall at USC.
Maybe he goes to Ames if the dominoes fall and Campbell ends up at Nebraska…..
I dunno. It seems like an irrational expectation to me. Even if everybody could make the Indiana leap, then nobody would stand out like Indiana. There’s simply not enough coaching talent, player talent, and luck to replicate the IU experience on any meaningful scale. A bidding war will not expand the limited talent pool. It only burns cash.
I assume those brilliant enough to amass huge sums of money are realistic enough not to expect to be able to buy a miracle, especially when everybody is drooling over the prospect. They didn’t make their fortunes with mass purchases of lotto tickets.
But maybe I’m wrong? Maybe we’re going to see another “arms race” for coaching and player talent, dwarfing the facilities competition that put us so deeply in debt.
Would love to see Nebby lose 3 of its last 4 after the megadollar extension.Matt Rhule out of the running for Penn State coaching vacancy with reported contract extension at Nebraska
Matt Rhule has reportedly signed a contract extension that will keep him at Nebraska through at least 2030.
Barely beat MSU, NW and Maryland and get a huge raise.
Because of the sheer number of jobs on the market, I think a lot of coaches are going to get huge extensions this offseason, who otherwise would not have or would have gotten smaller ones.
LSU football is more important than all those things to the average voter in LA. It’s a shrewd political move
The fatal flaw with all this "why not us" mooning over Cignetti is that other big time programs had openings, and didn't hire him. They could have. They did not. Why? Because his resume was too weak for them.
And then other programs who land in the wide middle space between Indiana and the blue bloods also didn't hire him? Why? Same reason.
And that's why finding the next Cignetti is going to be difficult for these kinds of programs. Because they like to hire guys with robust and impressive head coaching resumes, not guys who just finished their fifth season with a CAA/Sunbelt Conference team after almost a decade coaching FCS teams. Could you imagine Alabama choosing that guy over the guy who took Washington to the National Championship Game?
The problem with guys with robust resumes is that their resumes are robust because they've been in at least decent programs with at least decent resources. And if they ever had the resources to do a Curt Cignetti-type turnaround, they would have done it. So the guy that's gotten good results but plateaued at Missouri or SMU is not Curt Cignetti Vol. 2. They might well be a very good coaching hire. But they're not going to do Cignetti things.
The next Cignetti is some guy who is dominating one of the smaller conferences, or a Coordinator or position coach somewhere with heretofore undiscovered talents. And no program that can hire a guy with a resume is going to take a risk on that kind of hire in the hopes the guy turns out to be the next Cignetti. They're going to wait to see the next Cignetti pop up somewhere else and try to poach him. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't (like with the OG Cignetti).
And then other programs who land in the wide middle space between Indiana and the blue bloods also didn't hire him? Why? Same reason.
And that's why finding the next Cignetti is going to be difficult for these kinds of programs. Because they like to hire guys with robust and impressive head coaching resumes, not guys who just finished their fifth season with a CAA/Sunbelt Conference team after almost a decade coaching FCS teams. Could you imagine Alabama choosing that guy over the guy who took Washington to the National Championship Game?
The problem with guys with robust resumes is that their resumes are robust because they've been in at least decent programs with at least decent resources. And if they ever had the resources to do a Curt Cignetti-type turnaround, they would have done it. So the guy that's gotten good results but plateaued at Missouri or SMU is not Curt Cignetti Vol. 2. They might well be a very good coaching hire. But they're not going to do Cignetti things.
The next Cignetti is some guy who is dominating one of the smaller conferences, or a Coordinator or position coach somewhere with heretofore undiscovered talents. And no program that can hire a guy with a resume is going to take a risk on that kind of hire in the hopes the guy turns out to be the next Cignetti. They're going to wait to see the next Cignetti pop up somewhere else and try to poach him. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't (like with the OG Cignetti).
Illini92and96
- Austin, TX
Or there is a cohort of people that acknowledge the expectations exist, but believe the chances of meeting the expectations are low, and therfore question the expectations and if they will be helpful. If there are 15 programs that have expectations right now based on Indiana most of them will be disappointed.
My nephew wants to be a football coach. My sister-in-law said absolutely not and that he needs to find another, more reputable profession. Then I showed her how most of the highest-paid State employees are football coaches and how much they make, and now she's like that Indianapolis Colts owner.
Illini92and96
- Austin, TX
This seems crazy. Isn’t this an AD’s job? Unless the AD is out the door as well.
Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry told reporters Wednesday that LSU athletic director Scott Woodward won't be involved in selecting the Tigers' new football coach.
Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry told reporters Wednesday that LSU athletic director Scott Woodward won't be involved in selecting the Tigers' new football coach.
I don’t believe he’s actually signed an extension yet.
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