they have definately been turned down by more than a few guys
why not throw 15-16 million per year for 5 years at Urban Meyer ?
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why not throw 15-16 million per year for 5 years at Urban Meyer ?
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Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. Maybe it's a delayed slide off into obscurity after the Sandusky scandal. And they may have accelerated it by pulling the trigger so quick on Franklin.
With the scuttle about Mizzou in hot in pursuit of Hankins and Eberhard I could not agree more that if we're gonna cut ties has to be after the ink is dry for all the early signees.
They are equally of interest as is a replacement for Robby Discher.
Illinois absolutely can and should want better than any of those three coaches on staff next year.
I would argue that the transfers got worse from year 1 --> year 2 under Bart Miller.
Bart Miller on staff is accepting mediocrity at a position coach that should be at a premium.
Funny I always think of that offset as an incentive for coaches to take lesser employment to screw over their previous school.
Now he gets every $ he earns..
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There is a perverse pride activated in some donors by making a move midseason, IMO ... shows how ~serious you are~ at your program about high standards. Turns out, it's 99% of the time a childish emotional reaction and not the best strategy, lol.
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Well, if they'd done their homework and checked in with the real ball-knowers of Illinois Loyalty, they wouldn't have made that assumption.
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PSU obviously is a great program historically with incredible resources if the right guy is in charge, but ... I have always liked that Illini Basketball isn't solely reliant on one "legend" for our historical success. Sure, Lou is a legend ... but John Groce is the only Illini coach in the last 50+ years to not win a Big Ten title, with 4 of the 6 in that time winning multiple Big Ten championships, 4 of the 6 earning a #1 seed, 4 of the 6 making at least one Elite Eight appearance and 2 of the 6 reaching a Final Four.
I feel like programs like Nebraska football, PSU football, Indiana basketball, Syracuse basketball, etc. who are SO reliant on one legendary coach who elevated them into the stratosphere during his tenure often then slide back down to Earth and have an identity crisis, lol. Some programs correctly leverage the legend to maintain elite status (e.g. Duke basketball), but man ... I think PSU is about to have their Nebraska football moment.
I feel like programs like Nebraska football, PSU football, Indiana basketball, Syracuse basketball, etc. who are SO reliant on one legendary coach who elevated them into the stratosphere during his tenure often then slide back down to Earth and have an identity crisis, lol. Some programs correctly leverage the legend to maintain elite status (e.g. Duke basketball), but man ... I think PSU is about to have their Nebraska football moment.
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I think they end up taking the interim and yes spend some time in the wilderness. Thank God we have Brett in these changing times.
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Here's an article that tries to list/rank the best of the remaining options.
Re-ranking Penn State’s head coaching candidates after the latest round of hirings
Penn State missed out, or passed, on Bob Chesney, and after the coaching carousel chaos of the weekend, the Nittany Lions don't have many great options.
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I can't imagine boosters had this in mind when they got Franklin fired. Apparently they are talking with Sitake. I still have a hard time believing he ends up leaving BYU, but that wouldn't be the worst hire. Not sure it's an upgrade over Franklin though.
I can buy this just bc of what we saw early in the year and then what we saw against USC. Looked like 2 totally different OLs.
OL going side to side or working in space = bad
OL going straight ahead and moving the LOS = good
For some reason I tend to agree, Henry will be back for another year
So to me then you have to choose Lunney just because of how good he’s been (more often than not) with the offense this year and last.
IF Lunney gets poached, than maybe you go in a different direction with the offense. Do you pull Paul Chryst who’s more with BB/BM style? Would be very interesting to see the direction.
U of I alum George McDonald follows Kiffin to LSU as receivers coach.
With Nebraska letting go their Defensive Coordinator, I am hoping Bret makes a change.
When you have NFL skilled guys on your roster like last year, the fit was great. When you have average skilled position guys, it's not that great. The scheme looks a lot better with Pat Bryant on the field as your "go to" and not Hank Beaty. Elzy was supposed to be "that guy", but he never developed.
Ultimately, the game falls on the guys playing it. The recruiting needs to be better. Ditto for the defense. The Defensive Line looks a lot better with Johnny Newton anchoring it. Life was a lot easier on Jacas.
Ultimately, the talent differential between us and the rest of the conference(good or bad), falls on Bret. That's just the life of a head coach and it's why they get paid the big bucks. Can't just throw the rest of the staff under the bus and not take accountability yourself.
That's why there won't be any significant changes to the staff. That's purely my opinion and I know many don't agree with it, which is fine.
I just don't see Bret taking the cowardly way out and pinning a team wide talent deficiency on 2 or 3 guys.
10000% agree here. He's not going to make a termination move just to do it.
I'd hate for him to make that sort of move after the bowl game or signing day. That'd be a bush league thing to do to let this carry on for 4-6 weeks, have kids sign, then pull the rug out. That's a Lane Kiffin type move.
If Bret feels that Bart and Henry were completely lost in their abilities to do their jobs, they should have been fired yesterday. It gives them time to find new gigs and you don't mislead kids, then pull the rug out.
Part of cutting coaches is a potential exodus of current and future players. That just comes with the territory. If there's a huge upgrade out there, make it happen. If not, tighten the screws and let's focus on everybody, coaches includes, getting better.
Exactly. The lack of the offset actually serves to increase the cost to hire him.
MSU just signed Fitzgerald
I kind of agree in that the talent is clearly lacking on D this year. But even when we had talent (2023 for example with the law firm) we still looked like cow dung and played the same passive zone with minimal pressure up front we saw this year. It ain't just the talent that is lacking, IMO
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