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Fighter of the Nightman
the juiceman cometh said:
For one, I am pretty sure Brian Kelly is not represented by Jimmy Sexton or CAA, he's repped by Trace Armstrong at Athletes First.

If you buy the McShay theory on Sexton, which I'm honestly not 100% sold on (I think an equally likely, or even more likely, theory is that PSU is bungling the search and a lot of his clients like other options more than PSU, and the PSU opening is allowing him to get them great deals from those programs), I think the difference between Napier and Franklin would be that with Napier, it wasn't just one slow start, the UF AD and Sexton had talked about expectations etc. at some point over the last few years, while with PSU, Franklin had them in the Playoff Semis last season, and to go from that to mid-season firing is bad. If the Sexton theory is true, I think the way to justify it re: fiduciary duty to clients is that all of his clients benefit, in the long run, from a program that does that kind of thing being punished for it.
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This is the key for me. Nobody is impressed by them ~not accepting mediocrity~ … lol.

By all accounts, Josh Whitman is an incredible AD who coaches really like to work for. If Underwood took us to the Final Four last year and we fired him after a 3-4 start this year, absolutely no coach would sign up for an AD who’d do that.
 
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mattcoldagelli
It is going to be hard to take Penn State football talking about how there is this terrible thing happening, and all these powerful people know about it and won't say anything or do anything to stop it, and the terrible thing in question is.....[clears throat, checks notes, blinks multiple times]...agent collusion.
 
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aaeismacgychel
IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
Heard someone on the radio comment today that James Franklin will get Virginia Tech to the CFP before Penn State gets to the CFP.
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ACC is certainly more winnable than the B10. Sure there's Clemson, Miami, and FSU, but Bobby Bowden and Jimmy Johnson ain't coaching anymore. I'd rather take my chances with that inconsistency than OSU, Oregon, and Michigan year in year out. That said, you can expect 3-4 teams from the B10 to make it every year whereas you only expect 1-2 out of the ACC, so maybe it's similar.
 
#333      
Illini in Italy
I wonder who's behind the wheel at USA Today . . . Sparty fans have to be clutching their pearls with this one . . .

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#335      
Mr. Tibbs
editors write headlines , correct ?

it shows you definitively just how stupid the people are who are still working or recently got hired at print media . some person thought for a few seconds and said to themselves “ yea, the Michigan State Wolverines”
 
#336      
aaeismacgychel
BretMyBeachHouse said:
And we hired the guy who couldn't string three sentences together into one coherent idea.
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I still have no clue how he got hired. Anyone who listened to him for any more than 3 minutes at a time should have known he was a buffoon. Makes sense how he had success at Toledo though- he had some good coaches. Thank god we're past that era in our history...
 
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LFOD
mhuml32 said:
I think the disappointing finish to the season from the offense didn't help his case for a head job.
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Agreed. I was thinking about what a fan base would think upon the announcement of Lunney as their new head coach. I like him and don't think he needs to be replaced, but I don't think he'd be a splashy hire at this point.
 
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aaeismacgychel
altgeld88 said:
And that's exactly the sort of nutritional substance that enabled his players to push through excruciating chronic pain on the field, physicians' orders notwithstanding.

Too soon?
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If anything, not soon enough... still infuriating what went on when he was coaching here. While the Lovie era didn't work out at the time, the more years go by, the more appreciative I am of how he cleaned up the utter mess left behind by Beckman, and how he got us to a place where someone like Bret would consider taking the job, as well as leaving him some talent to help turn this around. At a time where we had so very few options and were a barely walking poison pill with lawsuits and sanctions on us, man did we strike gold with Josh.
 
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altgeld88
aaeismacgychel said:
If anything, not soon enough... still infuriating what went on when he was coaching here. While the Lovie era didn't work out at the time, the more years go by, the more appreciative I am of how he cleaned up the utter mess left behind by Beckman, and how he got us to a place where someone like Bret would consider taking the job, as well as leaving him some talent to help turn this around. At a time where we had so very few options and were a barely walking poison pill with lawsuits and sanctions on us, man did we strike gold with Josh.
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Yeah. The personnel decision is the most important one in any business. "A" people hire "A" people. "C" people hire the dregs.

Josh = A+ = Literally Bronze Tablet
 
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HensonHall71
aaeismacgychel said:
I still have no clue how he got hired. Anyone who listened to him for any more than 3 minutes at a time should have known he was a buffoon. Makes sense how he had success at Toledo though- he had some good coaches. Thank god we're past that era in our history...
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That's the odd thing though, the "success" at Toledo was 5-7, 8-5, 8-4 in three seasons, in the MAC, which shouldn't have screamed - "we need to get this guy".

Going back to the tweet - it's an interesting stat that a MAC team that finished 5-7 had 4 future head coaches on the Offensive staff. We obviously hired the worst of the bunch, by hiring the HC that couldn't win with that talent on the staff.
 
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