College Football Playoff

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Mr. Tibbs

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ChiefGritty said:
Now if *I* were trying to polish this turd, I would say the Big Ten and SEC champions (who essentially get byes by definition under this framework), would play their quarterfinal in the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl respectively on Jan 1.
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I would certainly expect that scenario

next question is who gets the other quarterfinal games -
Orange & Fiesta ?
how do you rotate in the venues for semi-finals ?
how do Cotton & Peach fit in ?
 
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GForce said:
That's a 17-game season for some teams. Ludicrous. I know we haven't seen it yet, but if I'm a surefire top 5 draft pick, do I want to put my body through that grind, and all the injury risk that goes with it?
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For that to happen, a team outside the top 4 seeds, would have to make it all the way to the championship game. Absolutely can happen, but I think the odds are low. Should that happen, that team would have had one bye week during the season, and another off week between their conference championship game and the first round, then rest periods of 10 days . In the case of ND or a team NOT playing in their championship game, the break is two weeks.

A team seeded 1-4 is going to have one off week during the regular season, and a 3.5 week break between their conference championship game and their quarterfinal game.

Looking from a wider lens, I predict that September college football games are going to become way more tilted to G5 and FCS opponents. Those are effectively going to be preseason games for the best players.
 
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Dan said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1759977782447092171
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Unreal, they took a concept that couldn't be screwed up and proceeded to butcher it (going to 12 teams instead of 8; 5 conference champs, highest "mid-major", 2 highest at-large that don't fall into the previous two camps) and then poop on it by spreading it across a whole month.

I'll still watch because I'm a sucker with zero will power. But I don't want College (Semi-Pro) Football playoffs going at the same time as the NFL playoffs (and based on those dates the powers at be within the College Football system don't want to go up against the NFL either).

Edit to add: Yes, I am irrationally frustrated with this announcement. Just let me have my moment please. I'll get over it, probably.
 
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SoCal Illini

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GForce said:
That's a 17-game season for some teams. Ludicrous. I know we haven't seen it yet, but if I'm a surefire top 5 draft pick, do I want to put my body through that grind, and all the injury risk that goes with it?
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Well, if they’re a surefire top nfl draft pick there are some mitigating factors. They do get paid now, plus they have insurance policies that I’m sure will adjust accordingly. Additionally, I’d venture to say there may be some ‘load management’, and practices/conditioning sessions, which are about 99% of the physical aspects of football, are not nearly as grueling as they used to be (junction boys).

If players do start to ‘opt out’ of the college playoff, that could present some serious issues for its feasibility greatly hurting the product, brand, perception and everything else that comes with that.
 
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Ramrod2010 said:
Unreal, they took a concept that couldn't be screwed up and proceeded to butcher it (going to 12 teams instead of 8; 5 conference champs, highest "mid-major", 2 highest at-large that don't fall into the previous two camps) and then poop on it by spreading it across a whole month.

I'll still watch because I'm a sucker with zero will power. But I don't want College (Semi-Pro) Football playoffs going at the same time as the NFL playoffs (and based on those dates the powers at be within the College Football system don't want to go up against the NFL either).

Edit to add: Yes, I am irrationally frustrated with this announcement. Just let me have my moment please. I'll get over it, probably.
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I hate everything.

The idea of a 14-team College Football Playoff starting in the 2026 season was discussed at CFP meetings in Dallas on Wednesday, just months before the start of the first season with a 12-team playoff.

CFP executive director Bill Hancock acknowledged the idea was discussed but declined to provide specific details, saying, "There's work still to be done."
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ChiefGritty

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Dan said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762980394003988776
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Just to note a signpost here:

There are major TV contracts signed, NFL venues with premium ticket prices booked, and a week of the schedule reserved for conference championship games which would under this proposal be meaningless and feature teams whose playoff bids were already clinched by definition.

That's an unusually clear spotlight on the way this entire process works. Extracting all the stakes out of the college football that previously existed, and just assuming all the money will still be there anyway and you can just add playoff money on top.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

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ChiefGritty said:
Just to note a signpost here:

There are major TV contracts signed, NFL venues with premium ticket prices booked, and a week of the schedule reserved for conference championship games which would under this proposal be meaningless and feature teams whose playoff bids were already clinched by definition.

That's an unusually clear spotlight on the way this entire process works. Extracting all the stakes out of the college football that previously existed, and just assuming all the money will still be there anyway and you can just add playoff money on top.
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Mr. Tibbs

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B1G & SEC schools each get 21 million per year from CFP

ACC& B12 schools & ND each get 12
G5 schools each get about 1.5

the disparity continues .
so glad we are on the right side of this
 
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It seems many of you have little faith in capitalism, which I will remind you, got fans a playoff in the first place, a huge improvement in getting better post-season games and a true national champion. (Ok, even a 4 team playoff in the current format that can bump G5 schools is not a true champion, but it's pretty close). There's a lot of greed and borderline, if not outright corruption that goes along with it, so I get the complaints, but in many respects I think you can easily build a case that the sport is more responsive to fans than it's ever been. The newer format should promote better non-conf games, allow the G5 to have representation in the playoff, and NIL was long overdue. And it is starting to reach players who would otherwise sacrifice their bodies with a lot less to show for it.
 
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Calvin said:
It seems many of you have little faith in capitalism, which I will remind you, got fans a playoff in the first place, a huge improvement in getting better post-season games and a true national champion. (Ok, even a 4 team playoff in the current format that can bump G5 schools is not a true champion, but it's pretty close). There's a lot of greed and borderline, if not outright corruption that goes along with it, so I get the complaints, but in many respects I think you can easily build a case that the sport is more responsive to fans than it's ever been. The newer format should promote better non-conf games, allow the G5 to have representation in the playoff, and NIL was long overdue. And it is starting to reach players who would otherwise sacrifice their bodies with a lot less to show for it.
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Is it really more responsive to fans? WSU and osu fans would say no. Or something else? I’m all for capitalism, but inevitably there are downturns, and I don’t think any potential downturns are being dutifully considered. Not sure even if that responsibility would fall on anyone, which could be part of the larger problem, no long term vision or guidance.
And with the true intent of nil, only a few players, like a star qb, would have benefited. The middle linebacker that’s just in the rotation wouldn’t, at least as much. It has become the overt method for pay to play, which has admittedly existed for a while. Nick saban had some interesting things to say about that, love him or hate him I thought he gave some good insight into the problems. Didn’t hear any potential solutions, although I didn’t listen to entire interview.

I just hope there aren’t unintended consequences that do in fact ruin what makes college football unique, and thus its appeal.
 
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