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Yep, the first domino is going to fall in the wrong direction. Nothing is changing here.
Next season feels like it is going to be crucial. I think we the fans really are hoping for some affirmation this thing is still on track, and it seems like BU needs some confirmation that this is the place for him.

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Texas would hire another coach after he was given the Interim tag, barring him winning it all. No bad optics if he leaves for another job. He’s been told as much, why he’s looking at other jobs.
I mean the jobs he’s been linked to as interviewing for tell me all I need to know about the “optics”. He managed to hold this group together for a wonderful season, but hasn’t proven he can do things necessary to keep a program at the top of D-I. Now if they strike out or hire a coach with no NCAA experience.

But Terry isn’t getting calls from top tier P5 programs. He’s probably going to have to prove he can do it at Cal or PSU first.
 
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Big Jack

Decatur
my car had Cragar's both sides and Big Daddy mufflers..........jacked up rear end...pioneer 8 track with 6 chrome JBL speakers .....

Many upgrades underneath the cowl induction hood........I disgraced many GTO Judges and Dodge Charger's and Super Bees......

I really really did..........................
This was the first car I actually bought for myself after hs graduation.. It wasn't new but oh was it sweet. Like a dumba$$ i sold it 2 years later. Now they sell for 100k. If i had been mechanically inclined i would never have sold it. Just to much work for this non grease monkey.

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One of my biggest take aways from that saga…Bo Schembechler a total Hypocrite!

I guess it’s A-okay because the Tiger’s Franchise is in the state of Michigan? Heh, Bo?

Michigan Man!
My take was the stupidity of Bill Frieder. Announces before the Tourney that he's leaving for ASU is then shocked that Bo fires his butt immediately. Like you couldn't wait a couple of weeks? What a dimwit.
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
Just kidding, but as someone who wasn't a big baseball fan growing up, listening to Steve Stone on Cubs games in the mid to late 90s taught me a ton about the game.
When I arrived in C-U as a freshman in '84 I knew little about the Cubs besides they payed their home games in the afternoon and I often saw the highlights on the 6- O'clock news in Ohio as a kid. My roommate was a diehard fan (that was the season they won the division for the first time in decades.) I thought Stone was the perfect foil and complement to Harry, particularly in the later innings when Harry was completely lubed. Fond memories. :D
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
How did Mike Davis work out at Indian? Exactly the same scenario as at Texas now.
A very different situation in a variety of ways.

Indiana isn't Texas, Chris Beard isn't Bob Knight, the reason those guys got fired are very different, 2023 is very different than 2000 in CBB, and Terry has done much, much better!
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
Don Cornelious (sp) had a lot of new black artists on Soul Train that went on to be superstars..............

and the Soul Train line was magical to me to see the moves being made........


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Yeah, Pru. Coincidentally, on Thursday night I began to watch Pulp Fiction for the first time in many years.

BTW, those are some formidable platforms the dude in the opening the vid is sporting. I was but a wee lad at the time but recall the funk and fashions well.
 
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DB11Headband

Chicago Burbs
My question is, if all of this drama being floated around here all week is true, how does this effect Underwoods ability to be successful here if he stays?
How does a program move on from "everyone wants to move on but now we're not"?
Not true. All this noise is mostly self-inflicted by BU and his “team”. JW has just been reactive to them reaching out to/listening to other schools yet again.

But the chances of Brad not being here next year are infinitely higher than they were previously.
 
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A very different situation in a variety of ways.

Indiana isn't Texas, Chris Beard isn't Bob Knight, the reason those guys got fired are very different, 2023 is very different than 2000 in CBB, and Terry has done much, much better!
Indiana hired an assistant coach as interim and made him the head coach next year. Indiana basketball went from being a blue blood to a very average team after ncaa championship game the next year. They still haven't recovered. My point is you take a high risk based on one season.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Indiana hired an assistant coach as interim and made him the head coach next year. Indiana basketball went from being a blue blood to a very average team.
I understand that, and to be clear Terry's HC resume (which isn't awful like, say, Orlando Antigua's, but isn't huge job worthy either) definitely indicates to me that over time he'll struggle to maintain the level that they're at.

But they've been awesome under him this year against a brutal schedule, they're one win away from the program's second Final Four since the Truman Administration, and they have two five stars coming in next year that he recruited who will absolutely be gone if they steal this job from him.

Why rebuild this situation? How is that the lower risk option?

The Fall of Bobby Knight was a whole other saga, I understand the desire to draw a parallel, but it's only there at the most superficial possible level.
 
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My take was the stupidity of Bill Frieder. Announces before the Tourney that he's leaving for ASU is then shocked that Bo fires his butt immediately. Like you couldn't wait a couple of weeks? What a dimwit.
Well yeah. Thought he was being more above boards/more transparent? Okay, how about how that might effect your players performance?? Duh.

Yours was the take in my house at the time.
I agree. That’s what most normal people would have done.

I can remember my dad saying something to the effect of: “Frieder’s a dumb_ss. I don’t even like Michigan but I hope they do well and he has to watch.” (Something along those lines.) As bad as that sounds it’s better than all the Bob Knight-praising, nonsense I usually heard about. Lol

To sum up:
Frieder: Moron
Schembechler: A-hole Hypocrite.
 
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Not true. All this noise is mostly self-inflicted by BU and his “team”. JW has just been reactive to them reaching out to/listening to other schools yet again.

But the chances of Brad not being here next year are infinitely higher than they were previously.
Infinitely higher because he's actively looking to find another job NOW or higher because Whitman has had enough?
 
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wettsten

Chicago
the Terry situation reminds me of another certain coach who took the previous coach's recruits on a deep run. didn't work out so well.

BB school / FB school stuff aside. just seems like a big risk to hire him based off of this performance. but if they can't get their tier 1 choices probably better to hire him than fall back to tier 2 choices.
 
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I'm going to add this, it's a little political, but given that I think that it carries huge weight for Texas...I'm going to add it. In an era where African American coaches are greatly unrepresented....how, in the world, can you let go of an African American coach, who just took his team to the pinnacle? That would be the biggest kick to the groin that you could hand that community. The heat would be unrelenting and quite frankly, deserved. Just my take.
Completely agree, you have a successful proven coach who acts professional and well liked by players. Don't know his hustory, but Texas has a ton of bball talent. I can see him being successful with the transfer portal and instate recruiting.

Texas would rightfully look bad not to hire him. It would also put the new coach in a hole.
 
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wettsten

Chicago
as for those who want to move on from BU, they're probably just worried about the possibility of him leaving that they're nitpicking anything about him so they can emotionally distance themselves if/when he does actually leave. we've all done it. think back to the last time you got dumped, you probably tried to remember their worst qualities to make yourself feel better.
 
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the Terry situation reminds me of another certain coach who took the previous coach's recruits on a deep run. didn't work out so well.

BB school / FB school stuff aside. just seems like a big risk to hire him based off of this performance. but if they can't get their tier 1 choices probably better to hire him than fall back to tier 2 choices.
That coaches opening recruiting pitch was "we don't need you, but if you can help out the team we will take you". Recruiting fell off as we all know.
 
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I’m a fan of Underwood and will be happy if he returns, but he does need to work on these points bluemountain laid out, most importantly, the in-game adjustments. If the lack of game-planning and in-game adjustments continue at the same level next season with a 1st/2nd round exit, we’ll be looking to move on.

It’s not just Loyola, that was tipping point, remember the Chattanooga game last year, or the lackluster Missouri losses, the Penn St losses, the too-little-too-late-game flurry come backs, the blown leads, the blown leads that still result in Ws but feel like heart attacks. Yes, you can say those are typical of all college teams, but it’s the biggest games that Underwood’s inefficiencies tend to bubble to the surface.
It’s funny. Ayo’s sophmore year to Trent’s fifth year I thought we found ways to win close games. We had a closer.

Now we don’t. Simple as that. Imo.
 
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as for those who want to move on from BU, they're probably just worried about the possibility of him leaving that they're nitpicking anything about him so they can emotionally distance themselves if/when he does actually leave. we've all done it. think back to the last time you got dumped, you probably tried to remember their worst qualities to make yourself feel better.
I would agree to an extent, however, for those of us you are referring to, I would think it’s much simpler to consider it in a different light. How about your girlfriend is flirting with a bunch of different guys and you’ve been told, by a reliable source, that she said she would definitely be interested in cheating on you and would break it off with you afterwards. At the same time, you’re told that a really good looking woman is very interested in you. She is more attractive in many ways and brings a different look and possibly more to the table. Oh, and she is willing to make a long term commitment to only you. Do you sit and wait for the inevitable separation to happen or do you move forward on your terms. Of course you know my answer. If the other woman isn’t available, maybe you put up with the ho (sorry, couldn’t think of a nice word) until something better comes along. That is how the male ego works!

And to note, Josh has showered Brad with everything imaginable (praise, facilities, raises, resources, NIL dollars, etc) and he / his people are not all in with us. Sorry, Brad has brought this upon himself if interest in other programs is accurate. Didn’t Brad say the MOST important thing when seeking out players was “we want guys that want to be here”? Hmmm. What’s the difference?
 
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