PizzaHutParkingLot
- McPherson, KS
I have nothing to add, except that this post was awesome (Can you do wrap ups of all the offseason insider bombs from now on?)
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I have nothing to add, except that this post was awesome (Can you do wrap ups of all the offseason insider bombs from now on?)
I very much appreciate the kind words, but i'm not sure everyone else would agree with you. And even if they did, i barely have time to read the thread let alone contribute.
MustangWally
- Mayfield
Or, as we called it back in the day: "The Land Beyond O'hare."
True. But point remains how much money did we spend for him and have him quit mid season. I’m not sure all the reasons but like you said 6 schools seems like a trend and our staff got burned.
Regarding how BU acted on the sideline I think he also figured out it was not working with his current roster. Ayo Kofi Trent DMW played better after BU challenge them. I don’t think Mayer RJ Hawkins Epps was motivated by yelling
Uday or Qusay or Falafel?
He played in New York City. He won NBA titles there. Both of those things will give someone some... 'attitude' beginning right there. Then he racks up lots of hardware in the Second City and becomes a Big (Personal) Thing out of that. Then he goes to Tinseltown and snags even more hardware. (And yes, he had great players along the way on that journey).
But the point here is that having that level of success would put a strain on anybody's sense of being 'humble'. How would most of us handle that level of success in the same track of the three biggest roundball cities in the World? It's tempting to get a little... 'big-headed'.
But apart from all that is what Jackson accomplished with Jordan. He got Jordan to listen to him and buy in to his roundball approach and philosophy. Jordan had already been in the league for six years and all he could do is pile up great individual numbers. Jackson changed Jordan as a player and with his thinking about how to approach the game. And the Bulls became a monster.
And ‘reaching’ Jordan is something that I don’t think anyone else was going to do.
And one more thing. In his youth, Jackson grew up in a strict religious enviroment. It was in his nature to become a bit of a rebel and not 'be so humble'. He was kind of sick of humility by then.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Great post...................Interesting thoughts and I have to admit , it was compelling and made me think.....We shall see how the drama unfurls and how close to the truth you got .....
I do have a question for anyone ....When skyy left the team did his access to NIL monies cease ??......OR , was that the reason he waited until we lost our game to Ark. b4 he publicly committed to L-ville .....Either way I have little to no respect for him and while
wishing no ill will , I hope he has zero production for the rest of his career......That's just how I roll....quitters are just that....QUITTERS
Terrible example. Cubs will stink for another 100 years! Go Cardinals
I think you spent too much time on him already.
Second and Chalmers or Obelix is that you?
He got all of his NIL payments. He burned us then he spurned us.
Skyy who? Did he play for the beloved? /s
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Thanks man...............I wish I could say what i really think of him , but I like coming here every day so I will just say it in the friendly confines of pruville....................your second sentence says it all for me...very defining.............
That really adds more credence to what Attention Def posted about the upset boosters idea.....hmmmmm..........
Kilgore Trout
- Driftless Region
Is that contractual - how NIL agreements are written?
Illin618
I forgot the last i in my username
- Southern IL
Best way for me to describe where I’m from is…
“I’m from Illinois”
*oh Chicago?*
“Nowhere near Chicago… southern Illinois”
*oh is that like Peoria or something??*
“Listen, I am basically from St. Louis just on the other side of the Mississippi”
Ryllini
- Lombard
Atleast we don't have to hold our palms out and point like they do in Michigan.Best way for me to describe where I’m from is…
“I’m from Illinois”
*oh Chicago?*
“Nowhere near Chicago… southern Illinois”
*oh is that like Peoria or something??*
“Listen, I am basically from St. Louis just on the other side of the Mississippi”
chiefini
- Rockford, Illinois
Couple that with the Matthew Mayer “punch”/altercation and Underwood’s loss/lack of control and “culture,” Whitman had to be livid. Skyy Clark leaving, no matter how positively Underwood spun it, was a National negative for the program and university. The public shaming of Epps on National TV later and the Mayer Monster debacle couldn’t have helped, either. Your well-thought out theory, AttDef, seems very plausible…
It’s a whole new world. I understand that it’s poor form to trash guys who are on the team and working hard, but playing poorly. And in the past, it was “they’re kids, they’re amateurs”. But at this point, Skyy Clark seems like an immature prima donna “professional” that effectively ripped off the Donating Illini with no remorse. I’m all for people calling that like they see it (but not sure if Dan will agree, and that’s cool, it’s his rules).
Great read! You sure you’re not an insider?
Not sure. I know they can differ by recruit for $, but don’t know about “terms and conditions”. Insiders, can any of you chime in here?
And you didn’t even mention the “fart noise” he made during the embarrassing press do reence when he was asked about the leadership of TSJ.
It was not a great year for Brad.
Whitman wasn’t livid about Skyy leaving or “the punch”. Happens in every program.
Pretty sure JW and BU don't conduct their business moves based on a message board thread. At least I hope not!!
chiefini
- Rockford, Illinois
Agree. And I’ve been a total Underwood supporter who has appreciated how much he’s done so to bring this Illini program back to where it belongs. I’m hoping if he ends up staying, that his behavior this season is an outlier, and he gets his act together…
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