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- Chattanooga, TN
That sounds good, it really, really does.Illini Nation ??
That sounds good, it really, really does.Illini Nation ??
Put me in camp that Underwood is not going anywhere.
These things change very quickly as you all know … But he could very well be here next year … Wouldn’t surprise me a bit …
The domino to watch is K State … Can Del Conte convince Tang to cash in on his success and leave for Texas … K State is not going to be as good next year and it would be smart for him to cash in now and that’s the advice he’s gotten …
If K State opens … My confidence Brad is here next year drops significantly … If Tang passes on Texas again … Del Conte is running out of options and while we can all agree Brad wasn’t on his tier 1 list … You better believe he was on his tier 2 … And he clearly does not want to hire Terry … So selling to your boosters that we swung for the fences and missed but got the winningest coach in the Big Ten last 4 years … Not a hard sell … Especially considering they lost to us this year …
If you beat 'em, join 'em.These things change very quickly as you all know … But he could very well be here next year … Wouldn’t surprise me a bit …
The domino to watch is K State … Can Del Conte convince Tang to cash in on his success and leave for Texas … K State is not going to be as good next year and it would be smart for him to cash in now and that’s the advice he’s gotten …
If K State opens … My confidence Brad is here next year drops significantly … If Tang passes on Texas again … Del Conte is running out of options and while we can all agree Brad wasn’t on his tier 1 list … You better believe he was on his tier 2 … And he clearly does not want to hire Terry … So selling to your boosters that we swung for the fences and missed but got the winningest coach in the Big Ten last 4 years … Not a hard sell … Especially considering they lost to us this year …
Hang on to it... if Skyy ever makes a name for himself (you know, like in a traditionally good way...long NBA career as premier scorer and distributor, etc.), could be a collectors item.He should have to give the $75 from all the NIL made while not participating on the team, or the bag he got from Kenny Payne.
I assume K-State would have to match what BU is making now - could/would they do that? That's a big jump from what they pay Tang, plus a substantial buyoutThese things change very quickly as you all know … But he could very well be here next year … Wouldn’t surprise me a bit …
The domino to watch is K State … Can Del Conte convince Tang to cash in on his success and leave for Texas … K State is not going to be as good next year and it would be smart for him to cash in now and that’s the advice he’s gotten …
If K State opens … My confidence Brad is here next year drops significantly … If Tang passes on Texas again … Del Conte is running out of options and while we can all agree Brad wasn’t on his tier 1 list … You better believe he was on his tier 2 … And he clearly does not want to hire Terry … So selling to your boosters that we swung for the fences and missed but got the winningest coach in the Big Ten last 4 years … Not a hard sell … Especially considering they lost to us this year …
Your updates and insight are always appreciated Lville, but at this point there is a lot of grey area between what would be considered "expected" or "unexpected" in this current coaching carousel.
Especially when comparing people who read this board and the average Illini fan, blissfully unaware of the behind the scenes scenarios being laid out here.
For example, would Texas hiring Rodney Terry full time be considered expected or unexpected? To us it might be unexpected, but to the average college hoops fan it probably makes a lot of sense. Obviously Texas is the major domino waiting to fall.
Anything involving Kansas and Self or Kentucky and Calipari would certainly fall under unexpected by anyone tho
Barring something unexpected happening, Brad Underwood will be the coach at Illinois next year
Your updates and insight are always appreciated Lville, but at this point there is a lot of grey area between what would be considered "expected" or "unexpected" in this current coaching carousel.
Especially when comparing people who read this board and the average Illini fan, blissfully unaware of the behind the scenes scenarios being laid out here.
For example, would Texas hiring Rodney Terry full time be considered expected or unexpected? To us it might be unexpected, but to the average college hoops fan it probably makes a lot of sense. Obviously Texas is the major domino waiting to fall.
Anything involving Kansas and Self or Kentucky and Calipari would certainly fall under unexpected by anyone though.
Devils advocate though, is Brad really willing to jump to KState, particularly with a depleted roster. He’s 59, is making top 10 money, and from the sound of it should bring back most of a pretty solid core, with CoHawk or TJ back distinct possibilities, has a top flight staff in place, good to great NIL, and attractive landing spot for transfers etc. Obviously KSU is a win from the F4, but still think the odds of winning are much higher here.These things change very quickly as you all know … But he could very well be here next year … Wouldn’t surprise me a bit …
The domino to watch is K State … Can Del Conte convince Tang to cash in on his success and leave for Texas … K State is not going to be as good next year and it would be smart for him to cash in now and that’s the advice he’s gotten …
If K State opens … My confidence Brad is here next year drops significantly … If Tang passes on Texas again … Del Conte is running out of options and while we can all agree Brad wasn’t on his tier 1 list … You better believe he was on his tier 2 … And he clearly does not want to hire Terry … So selling to your boosters that we swung for the fences and missed but got the winningest coach in the Big Ten last 4 years … Not a hard sell … Especially considering they lost to us this year …
If Terry gets Texas to the final four the job will be hisThese things change very quickly as you all know … But he could very well be here next year … Wouldn’t surprise me a bit …
The domino to watch is K State … Can Del Conte convince Tang to cash in on his success and leave for Texas … K State is not going to be as good next year and it would be smart for him to cash in now and that’s the advice he’s gotten …
If K State opens … My confidence Brad is here next year drops significantly … If Tang passes on Texas again … Del Conte is running out of options and while we can all agree Brad wasn’t on his tier 1 list … You better believe he was on his tier 2 … And he clearly does not want to hire Terry … So selling to your boosters that we swung for the fences and missed but got the winningest coach in the Big Ten last 4 years … Not a hard sell … Especially considering they lost to us this year …
If - and this is a very big if - the desire to part was mutual, I would presume the buyout could be waived.I assume K-State would have to match what BU is making now - could/would they do that? That's a big jump from what they pay Tang, plus a substantial buyout
What's the Vegas odds on Bruce Pearl? /sWho's taking money on NEITHER Brad or Sean coaching the Illini next year?
Barring something unexpected happening, Brad Underwood will be the coach at Illinois next year
There is more to coaching than just the tournament. Turned around a program in the dustbin and has most wins in Big10 over last 4 years.relative to performance, is any coach as richly paid as BU?
Yeah I honestly struggle to understand some of the negativity around BU, even as some who believes in and supports the highest of expectations for Illinois Basketball.There is more to coaching than just the tournament. Turned around a program in the dustbin and has most wins in Big10 over last 4 years.
I agree - I do not have negativity about BU - he brought us back and won two big ten titles. I do, however, have concerns about the program. When virtually everyone involved with the program says much of the team stopped listening to him, stopped running called plays, basically stopped accepting coaching, I have concerns. Things I saw this season reminded me of things I saw the last year of the Weber era, and that scares me. Something was obviously very wrong this year, and the question is whether it can be fixed by Underwood. I genuinely hope it can be, but I honestly don't have an informed answer to that question. It seems we will see what Josh Whitman's answer to that question is in the coming days.Yeah I honestly struggle to understand some of the negativity around BU, even as some who believes in and supports the highest of expectations for Illinois Basketball.
Agree. He's paid top 10 $, so I'd expect top 10 performance. We've gotten that one year out of 6, with top 20 2 other years. I'm happy with that performance assuming we get better tourney results. Doesn't change the fact he is richly compensated for what we has accomplished.There is more to coaching than just the tournament. Turned around a program in the dustbin and has most wins in Big10 over last 4 years.
and he is being well compensation for that.There is more to coaching than just the tournament. Turned around a program in the dustbin and has most wins in Big10 over last 4 years.
Yep, there is one dang big reason why, a 7ft 285lb Kofi. Thank goodness for that. Thats what has me concerned is can BU run a scheme without Kofi that works consistently . I haven't seen enough from BU that makes me as confident he can excel without him. Watching Millers teams look great without someone like Kofi. I am not saying BU can't do it, I think he can. I would be more confident in a few others and Miller is one of them. If KSU opened I bet he is gone but either way I hope BU improves and wins games.There is more to coaching than just the tournament. Turned around a program in the dustbin and has most wins in Big10 over last 4 years.