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ChiefGritty
sbillini said:
You’re looking for a job and you decide to pass on it and then you get laid off your current job. Most the time you can’t go back to the original offer. Even if the spot is still there, the employer probably won’t even want you.
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Well, the issue here is that the old employer DOES want you back and is prevented by an arbitrary rule from doing so.

The old "hiring an agent" thing did a lot of the justification work for this regime back in the day, but that's long out the window now.

At the very least, an undrafted player should be able to come back to school for the next season.
 
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EmeraldCityIllini
ChiefGritty said:
I just feel like saying out loud that guys who went pro in hopes of an NBA career, failing to catch on, and thereby having their eligibility permanently extinguished and forced into fly-by-night European careers they didn't even want always seemed like the single most unjust part of the NCAA eligibility framework.

It creates a big timing problem because college programs need to know their rosters before the draft happens. I don't know how to solve for that. But it is horribly unjust to put kids in a position where they make one bad decision and they are stuck in a purgatory where the NBA doesn't want them and college won't have them.
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I don't want to latch on to this part too much. Because that could mean a lot of things in my view, and most notably in timeline. Like when is it decided they didn't catch on and need to go the G-league or Europe? As simple as draft night? after summer league? when a specific NBA deal is signed that isnt a 2-way?

I hear you, and I do wish there was some sort of mechanism for kids who were just flat out undrafted and having remaining eligibility. I'd be open to some sort of "solution" with that instance, but I think that's where i'd probably have to draw the line.
 
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ChiefGritty
EmeraldCityIllini said:
I don't want to latch on to this part too much. Because that could mean a lot of things in my view, and most notably in timeline. Like when is it decided they didn't catch on and need to go the G-league or Europe? As simple as draft night? after summer league? when a specific NBA deal is signed that isnt a 2-way?
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So long as they aren't eligible until a new season starts (which I don't see as the hugest deal, but coaches are beside themselves about the idea of players coming in midseason, which is an easy and reasonable enough limitation to create) does that really matter?

I tend to think managing the line of who is "too pro" to be playing in college is a problem that would take care of itself. Players with NBA opportunities are going to take them, even if it's for less money, and "real" NBA players are going to be under contracts they aren't allowed to break.

Just do 5 years to play 4, with the clock starting the year of first college enrollment or the season starting after the player turns 19 (to keep way too old Euros out), with any season in which the player was paid to play pro ball (either in the US or abroad) counting against years of eligibility.

James Nnaji would be a senior at Baylor, rather than a freshman, and thus a much bigger gamble and a much less valuable asset, reducing the incentive for guys like that to flood back into college.

Players routinely changing college teams every season and having no roster continuity from year to year is a WAY bigger problem. I hope NIL contract buyouts can make progress on that part of it.
 
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Bucktown
ChiefGritty said:
So long as they aren't eligible until a new season starts (which I don't see as the hugest deal, but coaches are beside themselves about the idea of players coming in midseason, which is an easy and reasonable enough limitation to create) does that really matter?

I tend to think managing the line of who is "too pro" to be playing in college is a problem that would take care of itself. Players with NBA opportunities are going to take them, even if it's for less money, and "real" NBA players are going to be under contracts they aren't allowed to break.

Just do 5 years to play 4, with the clock starting the year of first college enrollment or the season starting after the player turns 19 (to keep way too old Euros out), with any season in which the player was paid to play pro ball (either in the US or abroad) counting against years of eligibility.

James Nnaji would be a senior at Baylor, rather than a freshman, and thus a much bigger gamble and a much less valuable asset, reducing the incentive for guys like that to flood back into college.

Players routinely changing college teams every season and having no roster continuity from year to year is a WAY bigger problem. I hope NIL contract buyouts can make progress on that part of it.
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I tend to agree generally, but at the non-elite level you have issues like a Mormon going a mission. Or, someone in the military going to school after their service.

I would have no issues of someone playing for a year, then dropping out of school for whatever reason, then coming back several years later to finish school and play. So that would still be 4 years of eligibility, but the 5 part wouldn't work. Maybe the 5 doesn't have to be consecutive as long as the person was not playing the organized sport during the gap.
 
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NarrowJ
I did not fact check this outside of a simple Google search, which seemed to indicate it is actually true:

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ChiefGritty
NarrowJ said:
I did not fact check this outside of a simple Google search, which seemed to indicate it is actually true:

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God I love the South.

EmeraldCityIllini said:
It is legitimately gross.
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I really do think there is a reasonable compromise path here.

His clock started running when he enrolled at Bama the first time, and he played two seasons. He went undrafted and deserved the opportunity to go back to school if he so chose AT THAT TIME. But he went to the D-League and has been getting paid as a pro basketball player for two seasons and now into a third.

Count pro seasons against his eligibility, his time is up.
 
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Yost
Guess we need to get a TRO from the Champaign Circuit Court!
 
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RabidDawgClassic
Anyone here familiar with the “One Piece” cards promotion? Apparently 8,000 cards were stolen Rutgers after their game with MSU. The trading cards also had the Illinois logo on them so, presumably, that promo is or will be happening here.

Lock the storage room.

www.si.com

Rutgers Reportedly Got Robbed Millions Worth Of One Piece Cards

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Oracle21
Scoregasm said:
Please no.
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Clearly the “I’m not good enough for the NBA but good enough for a college team to pay me” argument.

If he wins this case it’s over for the NCAA. It will be clearly a lower level pro league. I still don’t see eligibility year limits holding up in court either.

Once they allowed Euro pros to come, they don’t have any legs to stand on when it comes to not letting NBA pros play to.

LeBron should play college just for the farce when he hangs it up too lol
 
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Mr. Roberts
If the cards are selling for $600 on ebay, why are they giving them away? No wonder they lost $78 million.
 
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chrisRunner7
ChiTown said:
Coming back to B1G ?.They’re all having short NBA career remorse.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2017365161514823972
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Surprised it took this long, honestly. Things will continue to get worse for college basketball until we either have collective bargaining, or a new law from Congress, or both. And the NCAA appears to be content with doing nothing except lobbying Congress to do something, which... might not be a winning strategy.
 
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ChiefGritty
chrisRunner7 said:
Surprised it took this long, honestly. Things will continue to get worse for college basketball until we either have collective bargaining, or a new law from Congress, or both. And the NCAA appears to be content with doing nothing except lobbying Congress to do something, which... might not be a winning strategy.
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Honestly I am developing a bit of a tinfoil hat curiosity about whether some of these efforts to bring pros back into college are being encouraged/bankrolled by people within college sports desperate for Congress to step in. The more headlines and mainstream chatter you can generate about the situation being "out of control" the more opportunity you have to put yourself on the agenda.
 
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DeeIL89
RabidDawgClassic said:
Anyone here familiar with the “One Piece” cards promotion? Apparently 8,000 cards were stolen Rutgers after their game with MSU. The trading cards also had the Illinois logo on them so, presumably, that promo is or will be happening here.

Lock the storage room.

www.si.com

Rutgers Reportedly Got Robbed Millions Worth Of One Piece Cards

Rutgers University has reportedly been under a burglary, where thieves targeted a promotional giveaway tied to the popular anime series "One Piece." The inciden
www.si.com www.si.com
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I think the promo cards and a poster will be handed out to all attendees. There will also be shirts toss out to the crowd. This is a cool promotion One Piece is doing and cool to see that we are one of the school participating in it.
 
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