the BIG east was tougher (stronger) in terms of schedule as was the SEC west .
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More about getting top 2 teams in conference rather than two teams that happened to win their division playing for the conference title. For example, in the B1G this year, it likely would have been OSU vs. Oregon playing in Indy last night.
MustangWally
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The Big 12, ACC, and the MAC also had divisions.
We’ll see if this is legit:
I'm guessing this is fake as not showing up anywhere that I'm seeing.
Yes, this is the rationale and it is a sound one, but with wonky tiebreakers you can still end up with situations like the ACC had this year. I wonder why no league has just gone the path of using as the main tiebreaker either 1) AP ranking or CFP ranking or 2) some kind of analytic ranking (SP+, FPI, SOR, etc)?
Shief
- Champaign Area
I share your and @Pikeillinifan's skepticism.
If ND is really searching for alternatives, the B1G makes the most sense. In the Midwest, already play B1G hockey, have several rivals in conference (Mich., MSU, Purdue, USC), and more.
Shief
- Champaign Area
Someone shared this on an Illini Sports Facebook page and said it might mean ND is looking at options. We will see what happens, or doesn't.
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Notre Dame AD: ACC caused 'permanent damage'
Notre Dame's AD ripped the ACC after its CFP snub, saying the conference that houses almost every Fighting Irish team has caused "permanent damage" to the relationship.
I don’t see how any thing can happen. What other major conference is gonna give Notre Dame exactly what it wants (football independence and everything else in conference)?
Illini in Italy
- Illini HQ, Florida Panhandle
If ND wants to stay independent, let them play with themselves. Conferences should prohibit their members from schedule the whiny little bas(#$%@
The Mountain West had 4 teams at 6-2 this season. The participants in the conference title game were determined by a composite average of SP+, SOR, KPI, and SportSource rankings. UNLV and Boise State had the best average of those rankings and Boise State hosted the game due to winning the head-to-head matchup between the two during the regular season.
Biggest hurdle for ND is their entitlement of wanting to stay independent
ND knows it has a good contract with NBC and when they play on other networks people watch. A conference needs to figure out something all parties can agree on
Also ND keeps their bowl money when they go. But the Big Ten spilts all the bowl game and CFP revenue. Would ND be willing to share to allow their other sports a chance to play in a conference. If I am the ACC I don’t need ND for any sport other than football
Illini in Italy
- Illini HQ, Florida Panhandle
This is how a class act college football program responds to disappointment in not making the CFP field:
“We had control over this at Alabama and at Texas and we did not do enough,'” Lea said. "I think it's really important that we take ownership over the things that we did have control over, rather than complain about whatever decisions are being left out. ... I think there's a level of entitlement that exists in that, that cuts against the DNA of our program. The world expects us to be disappointed right now, but what we are is excited [for the bowl game]."
- Clark Lea, HC at Vanderbilt
Salute, coach.
“We had control over this at Alabama and at Texas and we did not do enough,'” Lea said. "I think it's really important that we take ownership over the things that we did have control over, rather than complain about whatever decisions are being left out. ... I think there's a level of entitlement that exists in that, that cuts against the DNA of our program. The world expects us to be disappointed right now, but what we are is excited [for the bowl game]."
- Clark Lea, HC at Vanderbilt
Salute, coach.
As for ND looking for a new conference not sure but their AD did get on the Dan Patrick show and voice his displeasure with the ACC. Stating," They've done permanent damage to the relationship."
Maybe expansion of the CFP to 16 teams next year. With the increase in team and player opt outs of the non playoff bowls have to wonder their sustainability in the future. Especially if they keep expanding the CFP. Would be disappointing if IL finally arrives at a point in the program to start participating in bowls on a regular basis and this happens.
Maybe expansion of the CFP to 16 teams next year. With the increase in team and player opt outs of the non playoff bowls have to wonder their sustainability in the future. Especially if they keep expanding the CFP. Would be disappointing if IL finally arrives at a point in the program to start participating in bowls on a regular basis and this happens.
ND got left out to the ultimate benefit of his conference. He’s just making the smart political statement to keep the focus off the fact that some really weak SEC teams (AL and OU) made the CFP.
RabidDawgClassic
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This is the way.
I suspect Indiana followed a similar blueprint. It appears Michigan State has seen the light. I also suspect Illinois was (and is) in the game but got sticker shock early on. Hopefully that’s past them now and they see how the game is currently played.
What I truly have to wonder is how sustainable this is. In the dark ages the money, by todays comparison, was chump change. But each year, the price tag gets higher and higher. How much longer will these billionaire donors continue to fund their favorite programs while seeing zero financial ROI? Is an inflated sense of self and all-access to the program a significant enough return?
I suspect Indiana followed a similar blueprint. It appears Michigan State has seen the light. I also suspect Illinois was (and is) in the game but got sticker shock early on. Hopefully that’s past them now and they see how the game is currently played.
What I truly have to wonder is how sustainable this is. In the dark ages the money, by todays comparison, was chump change. But each year, the price tag gets higher and higher. How much longer will these billionaire donors continue to fund their favorite programs while seeing zero financial ROI? Is an inflated sense of self and all-access to the program a significant enough return?
Sources: University of Utah nearing landmark private equity deal expected to generate $500 million
The new venture would generate a massive amount of money for the school in a groundbreaking move that may pave the way for more schools and conferences to do the same.
I don't have a problem with Big 18 teams playing ND in September but no games after October 1. And that includes USC
RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
Utah will be a non-figure athletically in ten years. They’re selling the future for a window to win right now.
Sources: University of Utah nearing landmark private equity deal expected to generate $500 million
The new venture would generate a massive amount of money for the school in a groundbreaking move that may pave the way for more schools and conferences to do the same.sports.yahoo.com
Curbelo Fanboy
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Yep - ND has had a great gig with their own TV deal since the early 90's. And for many years in the BCS & CFP era there was this notion they just had to win 10 & they would be auto in the playoffs cause of their draw. Obviously there draw is not what it used to be especially when trying to fit into a playoff scheme that is controlled by a network that benefits more from the SEC than it would Notre Dame.
Curbelo Fanboy
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Heck for IU that would still be the case 2 years ago.
What do you mean by ROI? Donations don't really have an ROI.
if you're asking how long people will contribute millions without a championship that's a great question.
The follow up is funding the next one. Look at Ricketts. The fire sale started before the champagne was mopped up.
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