College Sports (Football)

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note that was posted yesterday, 4/1
Yes, from the article:

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it kind of seems like they are just trying to show that they are doing something, even tho of all the problems facing college athletics, valid red shirts and guys playing after age 24 are about the least of the issues

who cares what age a player is?
let every player have the opportunity to play 4 years over a 6 year window to deal with injuries or not being ready at age 17-18 to play the line in football

cant they just admit it is no longer an activity for students to do from 3:30 -6:30 after school , but is a job. Let them unionize so we can get collective bargaining and stop with the unlimited transferring , and all the games being played with NIL. get schools to issue W-2's, 1099s, and make the athletes submit tax returns to the clearing house
 
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who cares what age a player is?
This is more of a basketball problem than a football problem currently, but once making money playing the sport is no longer a limitation, it opens the door to pros, including pros coming back into college.

NBA draftees coming back really upset people (more than I expected), there's no reason that can't happen in theory for NFL players too.

We do care what age the players are. 30 year old Aussie punters are fun stories, and it would be a shame to lose that, but if that's what it takes to prevent all the best basketball teams being made up solely of 28 year old Euros and failed NBA players, so be it.

Transfer stuff is the more important issue, but a sound and consistent eligibility framework is a platform upon which a sensible transfer policy can be built.

Nobody who likes college sports wants college sports to be just an open minor league. It's not going to thrive that way.
 
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From Wisconsin - I don't like this. Seems to follow the LSU model - taxpayer funded college athletes with no transparency as to how the tax dollars are spent.

Evers signs NIL bill that gives Badgers state funding​

“Gov. Tony Evers signed legislation that will provide $14.6 million in taxpayer funding for the UW athletic department, along with codifying many existing NIL practices,” the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports.

The practical effect is clear: by shifting some facility costs, Wisconsin can free up athletics dollars at a time when major programs are under mounting pressure to compensate athletes more directly. It exempts NIL contracts and related revenue-sharing details from the state’s open records law, a move supporters argued was necessary to protect athlete privacy and avoid giving competitors insight into Wisconsin’s financial approach. The measure also clarifies that student-athletes receiving NIL-related compensation through the university are not considered employees of the UW System.
 
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We're nowhere near the equilibrium point of bringing pros into college basketball.

From Wisconsin - I don't like this. Seems to follow the LSU model - taxpayer funded college athletes with no transparency as to how the tax dollars are spent.

Evers signs NIL bill that gives Badgers state funding​

“Gov. Tony Evers signed legislation that will provide $14.6 million in taxpayer funding for the UW athletic department, along with codifying many existing NIL practices,” the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports.

The practical effect is clear: by shifting some facility costs, Wisconsin can free up athletics dollars at a time when major programs are under mounting pressure to compensate athletes more directly. It exempts NIL contracts and related revenue-sharing details from the state’s open records law, a move supporters argued was necessary to protect athlete privacy and avoid giving competitors insight into Wisconsin’s financial approach. The measure also clarifies that student-athletes receiving NIL-related compensation through the university are not considered employees of the UW System.
There's no way the people of Wisconsin are going to sit idly by and let the Badgers fall into irrelevance.

The common thread of the two pieces above: this is still a dynamic, unstable system, everything is changing year by year.
 
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We're nowhere near the equilibrium point of bringing pros into college basketball.
It's just not a thing.

The oldest player in college basketball I was able to find this season was a 29-year-old from Maryland (Maryland, US, not Maryland, Estonia) who played for Green Bay. He never played high school basketball, despite being 6'4", and started working at Dunkin Donuts and a grocery store after he graduated. Five years later he joined the Navy. After HS he had grown to 6'9". He started playing ball in the Navy and joined the Navy team in the Armed Forces Basketball Championship. In 2024, ten years after his high school graduation, his contract with the Navy ended, and he got a scholarship to play ball at a JUCO. Impressed there and got a scholarship offer from Green Bay.

Under the proposed rule, this dude would not be able to play college ball. I don't think that's good. There's no reason his being in college basketball is bad for the sport, and banning a guy like that to prevent a thing that isn't even happening is a huge overreaction.
 
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It's just not a thing.

The oldest player in college basketball I was able to find this season was a 29-year-old from Maryland (Maryland, US, not Maryland, Estonia) who played for Green Bay. He never played high school basketball, despite being 6'4", and started working at Dunkin Donuts and a grocery after he graduated. Five years later he joined the Navy. After HS he had grown to 6'9". He started playing ball in the Navy and joined the Navy team in the Armed Forces Basketball Championship. In 2024, ten years after his high school graduation, his contract with the Navy ended, and he got a scholarship to play ball at a JUCO. Impressed there and got a scholarship offer from Green Bay.

Under the proposed rule, this dude would not be able to play college ball. I don't think that's good. There's no reason his being in college basketball is bad for the sport, and banning a guy like that to prevent a thing that isn't even happening is a huge overreaction.
It's a totally fair counterargument, and predicting the future in college sports has been a fool's errand in recent decades, there's no question.

My primary motivation in all of this is the return of the one player one school career being the base, common practice in major conference football and men's basketball. I'm willing to crack some eggs to make that omelette, but it would be senseless to screw over deserving athletes in service of a system that doesn't work anyway, that's the same trap we used to be stuck in.
 
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It's just not a thing.

The oldest player in college basketball I was able to find this season was a 29-year-old from Maryland (Maryland, US, not Maryland, Estonia) who played for Green Bay. He never played high school basketball, despite being 6'4", and started working at Dunkin Donuts and a grocery store after he graduated. Five years later he joined the Navy. After HS he had grown to 6'9". He started playing ball in the Navy and joined the Navy team in the Armed Forces Basketball Championship. In 2024, ten years after his high school graduation, his contract with the Navy ended, and he got a scholarship to play ball at a JUCO. Impressed there and got a scholarship offer from Green Bay.

Under the proposed rule, this dude would not be able to play college ball. I don't think that's good. There's no reason his being in college basketball is bad for the sport, and banning a guy like that to prevent a thing that isn't even happening is a huge overreaction.
Agreed, I actually find stories like this inspirational and part of the joy of college sports.
 
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It's a totally fair counterargument, and predicting the future in college sports has been a fool's errand in recent decades, there's no question.

My primary motivation in all of this is the return of the one player one school career being the base, common practice in major conference football and men's basketball. I'm willing to crack some eggs to make that omelette, but it would be senseless to screw over deserving athletes in service of a system that doesn't work anyway, that's the same trap we used to be stuck in.
Don't hold your breath, it will not happen - it's not returning.

Brad Underwood (and he's not a frequent flyer)
2012 - K-State - Associate Head Coach
2013 - South Carolina - Associate Head Coach
2014 - Stephen F. Austin - Head Coach

Then 1-year at Oklahoma State > Illinois
 
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