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OrangeBlue98
TentakilRex said:
Hypothetical question: if you were in Josh Whitman and Bret Bielema's shoes and you could (and in this scenario all of the scheduling implications and butterfly effects magically disappears), if Texas Tech offered to play the Illini this year in Lubbock with Sorsby guaranteed to start, would you accept the offer?
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Short answer: No
Long answer: Hell no
Really long answer: No f***ing way
 
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blackdog
Ander1345 said:
I've said it before that I would hope Illinois would stand behind one of their players.

I just don't know where this goes without guide rails. Every new eligbility incident seems wilder than the last.
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If an Illinois player admitted to gambling on college sports and their own teams I would hope this athletic department would support them in recovery from potential gambling addiction but not in getting back on the team.
 
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sbillini
blackdog said:
If an Illinois player admitted to gambling on college sports and their own teams I would hope this athletic department would support them in recovery from potential gambling addiction but not in getting back on the team.
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Dkayak
blackdog said:
If an Illinois player admitted to gambling on college sports and their own teams I would hope this athletic department would support them in recovery from potential gambling addiction but not in getting back on the team.
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Letting him play sends a message to the rest of the team. Not letting him play sends a different message. Which message is better for the team? For the sport? IMO no football team should touch him ever again, creating an exmple. Don’t even think about bringing this contagion into our locker room!

Sure, help him with rehab and maybe also to finish school. He threw one opportunity away but can still build a very good life for himself.
 
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RabidDawgClassic
Dkayak said:
Letting him play sends a message to the rest of the team. Not letting him play sends a different message. Which message is better for the team? For the sport? IMO no football team should touch him ever again, creating an exmple. Don’t even think about bringing this contagion into our locker room!

Sure, help him with rehab and maybe also to finish school. He threw one opportunity away but can still build a very good life for himself.
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I guess the poetic justice outcome would be for Texas Tech to play the guy, only to later find out he cost them several games via point shaving.

Even if he doesn’t point shave, every Texas Tech fan is going to scrutinize with angst every incomplete pass or fumble Sorsby makes. They may not vocalize it outwardly, but internally they’ll wonder.
 
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OrangeBlue98
#90      
Dkayak
Over 20 minutes to rationalize not doing the right thing!

“First and foremost we support our students”. We’re not influenced by the effect on our football program. “There’s no reason whatsoever to question the integrity of our athletic department”. A pretty bold lie there!

They say “addiction is real” with a lifelong temptation to gamble. True. They say he needs to be able to pursue his career. Good luck with that —- who’s going to draft a gambling addict? They’ll ensure he can’t place bets directly. How will anyone EVER know whether his friends or family members aren’t betting with his help, now or in the future?

They want to “get him into a healthy space”, like helping an alcoholic with his bartending aspirations. It’s Irrational to have him involved in any sport that’s subject to betting.
 
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sbillini
honest question - if someone gets into a car accident while drunk (let's say they don't injure anyone) and admits that they're an alcoholic and needs help, does society give them access to AA and then let them keep their driving privileges? or, at the very least, give them support and time to get the help that they need, and then let them show to society that they've shown sustained progress to recovery before letting them drive again?

i'm not a fan of blanket ban, never going to drive again, but I think it's perfectly reasonable and the right thing to do to take away the privilege for some time.

maybe a bit more dramatic of an analogy, but I think reasonably close enough.
 
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illinistephen
Since a Texas judge can get around the NCAA's gambling rules, are there any Illinois judges that think it's really unfair that Illinois can't bring in some guys off an NFL practice squad or the UFL. /s
 
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OrangeBlue98
Since a Texas judge can get around the NCAA's gambling rules, are there any Illinois judges that think it's really unfair that Illinois can't bring in some guys off an NFL practice squad or the UFL. /s
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Might as well try. Nothing seems to be illegal these days.

/s
 
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Scoregasm
illinistephen said:
Since a Texas judge can get around the NCAA's gambling rules, are there any Illinois judges that think it's really unfair that Illinois can't bring in some guys off an NFL practice squad or the UFL. /s
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This would be especially fun if they were former scum or tOSU players.
 
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