Notice where Maryland's basketball coach is from 
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree
Commission on College Basketball recommendations
CBS Sports CBBVerified account @CBSSportsCBB 1h1 hour ago
Kansas has reportedly been subpoenaed in connection to the FBI's probe into college basketball corruption.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...onnection-to-fbi-probe-of-college-basketball/
Kansas has reportedly been subpoenaed in connection to the FBI's probe into college basketball corruption.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...onnection-to-fbi-probe-of-college-basketball/
They don't sound worried. Article video link was more about how good they'll be: best front court Self has ever had. Yikes!
One and Done Rule Likely to Go
Kind of indirectly related to the college commission -might deserve it's own thread.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/07/10/adam-silver-nba-one-and-done/773991002/
Not sure when we last had a 1-n-done talent, but this should affect the top-recruiting schools, since they'll need to compete with the NBA again. Personally, I think it's good for the college game, and hope it happens. They talked about it being in place by the 2021 draft.
Kind of indirectly related to the college commission -might deserve it's own thread.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/07/10/adam-silver-nba-one-and-done/773991002/
Not sure when we last had a 1-n-done talent, but this should affect the top-recruiting schools, since they'll need to compete with the NBA again. Personally, I think it's good for the college game, and hope it happens. They talked about it being in place by the 2021 draft.
t7nich
- Central IL
Why should they be worried? They are the victim here... :tsk:
illini80
- Forgottonia
Wasn't long ago at least some were talking about extending that to 2 years.
I don't have a big problem with the way it is. Make players prove they deserve to be drafted. I know a lot of them only take a few classes but I would think that could be cleaned up with a little effort.
KrushCow31
Former Krush Cow
- Chicago, IL
If they wanna get paid, they should get paid. If they are ready, they should get drafted. Artificial barriers are pointless and only promote scandal from players that want to get paid now (for whatever reason good or bad). The 1 and done rule has been terrible for the NCAA.
Let the kids go that want to go...they are only taking up $$$ that could go elsewhere for a kid that would actually want to be there for ball and get an education. At the same time, a good amount of corruption goes bye bye.
If they don't get drafted, allow them to still have 2-3 years eligibility starting the following year?
If they don't get drafted, allow them to still have 2-3 years eligibility starting the following year?
I'm not so sure. It's kept a lot of talent in the college game, and made it easier for top programs to stay rich, rather than have to rebuild after a run. The top 5-10 guys in the h.s. rankings used to get drafted before the rule.
KrushCow31
Former Krush Cow
- Chicago, IL
Talent wise sure. But it has also changed the team building chemistry to focus more on signing that 1 and done player to take you to the promise land rather than build up solid 2-3 year starters. I think the destruction of the 1 and done rule would promote more team play like what we saw in Loyola vs what we see from most other teams like Kentucky and Kansas etc. However, that's just the type of basketball I like to watch, so that's just my opinion.
I think undoubtedly removing the 1 and done rule would make the NCAA cleaner in terms of money transferring. Obviously not "clean", but cleaner.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
I like this, if they get drafted, mandatory 3 year deal (with financial/life counseling). If they don't get drafted, they still have college eligibility, they are not allowed back in the draft/NBA for 3 years (they, of course, can go overseas).
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
I think that is all "nice", but it presumes that the NBA will play nicely with the NCAA. To date, they haven't done so that I can see.
I'm frankly shocked that they are even considering eliminating one n done. It benefits the league by avoiding giving contracts to guys who might show that they're not league effective when playing against college level talent. But if they do eliminate it, I'm all for it.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
I haven't seen it in this thread, but our dear friend LaVar Ball thinks he has the solution to getting kids to the league without having to go the college route.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Basketball_Association
And of course, nothing involving Mr. Ball is complete without some controversy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Basketball_Association
And of course, nothing involving Mr. Ball is complete without some controversy.
KrushCow31
Former Krush Cow
- Chicago, IL
I wonder if there would be a ratings boost for a while with high school seniors going to the draft again/playing in NBA games. I think I might be more likely to tune in.
I rolled my eyes when I saw this headline, but shockingly, this is on exactly the right track
This is how you square the ethos of college sports with the realities of the ungodly sums of money being generated. There are a lot of little things to quibble with, but this would elegantly sidestep a lot of the problems.
This is how you square the ethos of college sports with the realities of the ungodly sums of money being generated. There are a lot of little things to quibble with, but this would elegantly sidestep a lot of the problems.
I didn’t like how the deadspin article said the “graduate to get your money” was veiled as an incentive but really hurt black male atheletes. How does getting them (or all athletes really) to work harder in the classroom hurt them?
Are they saying black male atheletes are incapable of raising their 55% grad rate higher? Maybe with a hefty check wrapped around the diploma some of those other 45% will be able to do what it takes to make it. I mean, that’s college right? Work hard with the intent to earn a paycheck sometime after graduation?
Also, isn’t that the point of a tough, yet rewarding goal? To work hard, better yourself, and overcome odds to achieve it?
Maybe I’m just focusing too much on what a deadspin author said.
One might argue that many D1 athletes, especially in the revenue sports, are admitted despite educational backgrounds that give them little chance for success in college-level work, that programs expend little to no effort to bridge that gap beyond just keeping the players eligible as athletes, and that such cases are disproportionately among black males, reproducing the broader inequalities in society.
One might then counter-argue though that an up-front financial incentive to graduate for athletes would create a draw for players, especially those same black males, to commit to schools that will help them graduate.
One might then counter-counter argue that the UNC-type stuff would only get worse if programs had to "graduate" their players in order to survive in recruiting.
This stuff isn't easy. Gotta be careful. But these are the right questions to be asking.
I appreciate you having the argument for us to save us time.
But in all seriousness, I agree. It’s a delicate subject. But with the right people in the right places doing the right things, it can be solved. That assumes a lot...but something as serious as the future of our youth would definitely be worth it to solve.
Serious Late
- Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
With regard to the 1-n-done vs. Straight from high school draft policy affecting NCAA hoops, I am skeptical that will have a major impact. We have been down both roads before, with limited overall negative consequences. Sure, seeing KG, Kobe, Shauny, etc. in college would have been fun, but I don't believe their not attending had a big effect on the popularity of CBB. I could be wrong, though.
That said, the far more interesting topic I am following is the potential expansion/evolution of the G-league. You combine straight from high school eligibility with a proper minor league system and there lies the potential to legitimately threaten college hoops as a minors to the NBA. It would take a big commitment from the NBA and I don't believe a one-off entrepreneurial operation like Lavar Ball's would succeed, but if you expanded the draft substantially and added another tier to the G-League... that could hurt. There is chatter around that topic.
That said, the far more interesting topic I am following is the potential expansion/evolution of the G-league. You combine straight from high school eligibility with a proper minor league system and there lies the potential to legitimately threaten college hoops as a minors to the NBA. It would take a big commitment from the NBA and I don't believe a one-off entrepreneurial operation like Lavar Ball's would succeed, but if you expanded the draft substantially and added another tier to the G-League... that could hurt. There is chatter around that topic.
I agree with this. If you need an example, college baseball is a very low attendance sport. AA and AAA baseball is far more popular and is the path to the MLB teams. Sure, some can come from college baseball, but it is not nearly as prevalent as the minors in baseball. IF the NBA were to follow THAT model, it might be possible. However, it would be a LONG TERM investment to create a minor league that would stand the test of time. The NBA would have to spend substantial amounts of cash at a loss for a long time before it would become a viable situation.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/col...cle_a24ed58d-8f95-5539-9518-c89dcca88fa1.html
Former Mizzou athletics tutor Yolanda Kumar isn’t done naming names. In a barrage of tweets posted Monday, the NCAA whistle blower said she plans to publish the names of Mizzou “students, classes and (academic) coordinators” connected to the academic fraud accusations she first made in the fall of 2016, along with “the new allegations.”
In March 2017, Kumar told the Post-Dispatch she met with NCAA and Mizzou officials in January of that year and admitted she helped 42 MU athletes commit varying degrees of academic fraud.
Former Mizzou athletics tutor Yolanda Kumar isn’t done naming names. In a barrage of tweets posted Monday, the NCAA whistle blower said she plans to publish the names of Mizzou “students, classes and (academic) coordinators” connected to the academic fraud accusations she first made in the fall of 2016, along with “the new allegations.”
In March 2017, Kumar told the Post-Dispatch she met with NCAA and Mizzou officials in January of that year and admitted she helped 42 MU athletes commit varying degrees of academic fraud.
In other news, 20+ accrediting agencies that formerly accredited the University and its' associated colleges have revoked all degrees granted at the former university since its' founding in 1839, confirming that no student attending MizNoz ever received a real education (as documented below)
illini80
- Forgottonia
One thing eliminating the one and done rule does is muddy the recruiting waters. (Like they're not already. Lol) The blue bloods of the world can take commitments from possible draftees, but keep others on a waiting list until they see if their commit gets drafted. Frankly I don't see how it solves any of problems with the recruiting scandals. It just channels the money in other ways. Any player good enough, can make money coming out of HS now if he chooses.
In other news, 20+ accrediting agencies that formerly accredited the University and its' associated colleges have revoked all degrees granted at the former university since its' founding in 1839, confirming that no student attending MizNoz ever received a real education (as documented below)
Just another reason North Carolina is good and others are not
The guy in the front of that picture probably hasn't gotten out of bed since he heard the news of the Cards firing Matheny