Conference Realignment, Naming Rights, Financing

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It shouldn't in theory, the PE cut of the money would just be taxed at that level.

My confusion is what the PE firm is actually buying here. These deals have been increasing in European soccer, buying up future TV rights and other income streams, but those clubs and leagues can't just scatter to the wind the way the Pac 12 did.

How does the firm enforce this against a bunch of government entity schools in a diverse pileup of states?

The harder it is to answer that question, the less these rights are worth today.

Honestly this sport is committing suicide so fast it's all going to be moot anyway before long.

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I'm all for capitalism and whatnot, but I'm really tired of the endless increase of advertising and money grabbing. Allstate 12? Lmao. What's next, the State Farm Ten? University of Illinois-ExxonMobil? I really don't wanna watch the battle of insurance companies. I wonder if they realize that they're killing the sport or if they simply don't care and just can't resist squeezing out every last possible cent.

Isn't that capitalism at its finest ? ? ? Squeezing out every last possible cent ? ? ? ? ?
 
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Isn't that capitalism at its finest ? ? ? Squeezing out every last possible cent ? ? ? ? ?
No, that’s how marxists incorrectly view capitalism.
Let’s not forget this started with the schools themselves along with their conferences. Then trickled up to NCAA and all were in the business of profiting from football at a more and more sophisticated level. A general herd mentality is leading the herd over a cliff for fear of missing out and doing everything they can to stay competitive. To stay competitive now it looks like you’ll need money to buy the players. Therefore some some ‘lesser’ programs are willing to ‘go further’, like the big 12 of conference USA, to get as much as they can now. They’re “buying high” because everyone else is.

That’s barely scratching the surface of a very complex situation, but in the end you’ll see a great reset or some version of one. Inevitably at least some schools will say screw it, and form regional conferences with other like-minded and comparable schools. So… kind of like it was 100 years ago.
 
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ptgrd23

orange county CA
If the Saudis take over College Football, I'm out.
LIV Big 12 conference. 40 minute games. Top Gun dogfight football rules (2 footballs, play offense and defense simultaneously). Highest NIL dollars to ex NFL QB's who come back to college (Dan Marino vs. Joe Montana rematch). Play in spring to compete with UFL. Blue bloods start out with 21 point lead.

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No, that’s how marxists incorrectly view capitalism.
Let’s not forget this started with the schools themselves along with their conferences. Then trickled up to NCAA and all were in the business of profiting from football at a more and more sophisticated level. A general herd mentality is leading the herd over a cliff for fear of missing out and doing everything they can to stay competitive. To stay competitive now it looks like you’ll need money to buy the players. Therefore some some ‘lesser’ programs are willing to ‘go further’, like the big 12 of conference USA, to get as much as they can now. They’re “buying high” because everyone else is.

That’s barely scratching the surface of a very complex situation, but in the end you’ll see a great reset or some version of one. Inevitably at least some schools will say screw it, and form regional conferences with other like-minded and comparable schools. So… kind of like it was 100 years ago.

Soooo I'm confused.... It was the 'Marxists' at USC that called up the B1G and asked if they could join, because they weren't making enough money in the PAC12 ? And they wanted to be more like 'Capitalists' ? ?
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Soooo I'm confused.... It was the 'Marxists' at USC that called up the B1G and asked if they could join, because they weren't making enough money in the PAC12 ? And they wanted to be more like 'Capitalists' ? ?
Taking it as a mathematical certainty that fan passion could never decline no matter how much you degrade the product isn’t an ideology, it’s just a factual error.
 
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Just following in the steps of the Barclays Premier League...

From the 2nd year of the PL's existence up until 2016, the Premier League had some form of sponsorship. They dropped Barclays from the name at the end of the 2015-16 season because they wanted a "clean" brand name for the competition similar to what there is with the major pro sports leagues in this part of the world.
 
#260      
I'm all for capitalism and whatnot, but I'm really tired of the endless increase of advertising and money grabbing. Allstate 12? Lmao. What's next, the State Farm Ten? University of Illinois-ExxonMobil? I really don't wanna watch the battle of insurance companies. I wonder if they realize that they're killing the sport or if they simply don't care and just can't resist squeezing out every last possible cent.
I can see it now: Michigan vs Ohio State in the Ro-Tel Chilies Conference championship game — brought to you by Barbasol.
 
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Fan Since '70

OBS, Florida
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lawsuit-settlement-change-college-athletics-100000988.html

Lawsuit settlement and revenue sharing will change college athletics. It may be time for UM to drop sports. The University of Miami and many of America’s other institutions of higher education suddenly found themselves last month having to prepare to engage in a dubious new line of business: operating teams in professional sports leagues. Now, with intercollegiate athletics turning pro, becoming more expensive, and increasingly vulnerable to the pernicious influence of sports gambling, it would arguably be a plus for UM if the money that alumni and boosters now contribute to UM’s sports programs could be redirected to further enhancing the school’s primary mission: education.

 
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lawsuit-settlement-change-college-athletics-100000988.html

Lawsuit settlement and revenue sharing will change college athletics. It may be time for UM to drop sports. The University of Miami and many of America’s other institutions of higher education suddenly found themselves last month having to prepare to engage in a dubious new line of business: operating teams in professional sports leagues. Now, with intercollegiate athletics turning pro, becoming more expensive, and increasingly vulnerable to the pernicious influence of sports gambling, it would arguably be a plus for UM if the money that alumni and boosters now contribute to UM’s sports programs could be redirected to further enhancing the school’s primary mission: education.

Whoever wrote that article needs to spend some time thinking about the premise.

Whether you think it's a good or bad thing. This is America and college sports produces way too much revenue and way too many very wealthy people love it. They are not going to separate college football from the universities(the major schools will be fine, smaller ones maybe not so much).

Congress will simply pass an anti trust exemption and quash the lawsuits if they seriously threaten college football.
 
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Steelyunk

Tobacco Road
Whoever wrote that article needs to spend some time thinking about the premise.

Whether you think it's a good or bad thing. This is America and college sports produces way too much revenue and way too many very wealthy people love it. They are not going to separate college football from the universities(the major schools will be fine, smaller ones maybe not so much).

Congress will simply pass an anti trust exemption and quash the lawsuits if they seriously threaten college football.
Some experts theorize that half of the colleges in America will close in 10 years. You could argue that athletics and STEM are the only things keeping colleges open.
 
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Some experts theorize that half of the colleges in America will close in 10 years. You could argue that athletics and STEM are the only things keeping colleges open.
To be completely fair there are so many tiny private or for profit colleges that half of them could probably close and most people wouldn't even notice and I'm not talking about schools with D1 sports programs.

It would be better for society if all the for profit ones closed tbh.

There is like 90+ colleges in the state of Illinois alone.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
Some experts theorize that half of the colleges in America will close in 10 years. You could argue that athletics and STEM are the only things keeping colleges open.
1/2 is going a bit far, but I wouldn't doubt that 10% -15% do.

but well over 50% of the degrees offered by most colleges are worthless compared to their cost
 
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I’m looking forward to the pac 2 this year. A unique situation with probably the easiest conference schedule planning ever, past and future (excluding the partnering with mountain west part) A conference title game mid season, and 2 programs that have had their share of pretty good success in the past.

A first look at what could become of some other football teams as a result of short-sighted $ chasing. They were already essentially what the fans here realistically want the illini to be, mid tier 6-6 or 7-5, with some 8,9 or 10 win seasons sprinkled in. They’re the first to be left out, possibly already destroyed, but probably won’t be the last.

Cal athletics has been a low priority for the school for a while, and Stanford has fallen pretty far. I don’t expect much from them but they’re still technically in a “major” conference for now at least. I wonder how long they will be in the acc. Over under anyone?
3 years. Because there will not be an ACC. There will be 3 super conferences. That's how the money will be divided and controlled.
 
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Some experts theorize that half of the colleges in America will close in 10 years. You could argue that athletics and STEM are the only things keeping colleges open.

The average college more often than not loses millions trying to run a Division 1 men's and women's athletic program
The university more often than not does not benefit from the revenue generated by athletics and the Athletic Association.

One would never find a business that loses millions per year supporting an activity that is now extremely far removed from its mission statement.
 
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KBLEE

Montgomery, IL
Dan Gilbert is also a Michigan State alum so the sponsorship is not that outrageous.

It also part of an ongoing rivalry with Mat Ishbia, who is the CEO and majority shareholder of United Wholesale Mortgage Company (UWM). Mat Ishbia was a former Spartan basketball player who was on their 2000 championship team. Mateen Cleaves is actually part of his executive team. But, he purchased the Phoenix Suns / Phoenix Mercury last year and was forced to end his NIL arrangement with MSU to avoid any potential conflict of interest. UWM overtook Rocket as the #1 mortgage lender in the country in 2022.

 
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