Conference Realignment

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I think "Illini Football" after 5-6 seasons under Bielema where we are going to bowls and now consistently filling a 60k+ stadium has as much value as most programs.

I choose to imagine an Illinois after 3-4 more years of Bielema that we have not been able to imagine since the late 1980s ...

Never change, Fighter! ;)

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#55      
Again, going back to my earlier post ... why would Ohio State want to play Michigan, PSU, USC, Oregon, etc. every year, possibly wrack up 2-3 more losses than usual and split that money equally with Northwestern in the "B Division"? I think the "big time schools" see the value in getting to play "second tier" programs that still draw good ratings like Wisconsin, Illinois, Nebraska, Iowa, MSU, etc. and yet are programs they should beat over 75% of the time.
If the division winner/playoff selection is determined from the "good" division, then you better believe they'll want that.
 
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MoCoMdIllini

Montgomery County, Maryland
Jeff Johnson’s blog claims he hears the B1G AD’s are considering divisions based on performance ala english soccer

9 of the “best” teams in one division and the other 9 in the other . no word on how that would be split or how movement up or down would be determined .

regardless , money distributed is the same . it only effects schedules and probably gets reconfigured every two years
We used to joke about being relegated to the MAC. Now I guess it would just be to the Other Ten.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
Also, think there's gonna be schedule window expansion. Week 0 Kick-off extravaganza is in the cards (football all day long, coast to coast, BIG matchups)
for sure
at least 4, if not 6 conference games in week 0, and maybe even a couple non cons
 
#65      
my money's* on this:
10 conference games sooner than later.

* - $2, FWIW
I have very strong doubts on that. Reason being is you will likely wind up with multiple claimed championships in any given year and fans absolutely hate a non-unified champion. For example, say you have an undefeated Notre Dame or Stanford, or any other team outside of B10 or SEC. Even if the B10/SEC claims the winner is the national champion, there will always be the argument that the best team was left out of the championship. This will be especially true if the B10/SEC champ winds up with with losses or multiple losses whereas others are undefeated.

Fans would be in open rebellion over this and it would lead to big financial drop-off in my opinion as it would return football back to the historical era where there weren't unanimous champions.

I'd say more likely if the SEC and B10 each have 2 divisions, the 4 division winners make the playoffs. The #3 and #4 B10 and SEC teams play against each other as well with those winners also making the playoffs. So 6 teams from the B10/SEC and 2 to 6 from elsewhere. If the field expands to 16, then likely 10-12 from B10/SEC and 4-6 from elsewhere. Something like that would make more sense to me.
 
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Joel Goodson

ties will be resolved
I have very strong doubts on that. Reason being is you will likely wind up with multiple claimed championships in any given year and fans absolutely hate a non-unified champion. For example, say you have an undefeated Notre Dame or Stanford, or any other team outside of B10 or SEC. Even if the B10/SEC claims the winner is the national champion, there will always be the argument that the best team was left out of the championship. This will be especially true if the B10/SEC champ winds up with with losses or multiple losses whereas others are undefeated.

Fans would be in open rebellion over this and it would lead to big financial drop-off in my opinion as it would return football back to the historical era where there weren't unanimous champions.

I'd say more likely if the SEC and B10 each have 2 divisions, the 4 division winners make the playoffs. The #3 and #4 B10 and SEC teams play against each other as well with those winners also making the playoffs. So 6 teams from the B10/SEC and 2 to 6 from elsewhere. If the field expands to 16, then likely 10-12 from B10/SEC and 4-6 from elsewhere. Something like that would make more sense to me.

ok, we disagree.

There's going to be a P2 champ and the tier below champ. Just to be clear, this will happen after the P2 breakaway.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

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it will take a little time , but in just a few years 98% of all the highly rated recruits will be going to P2 schools . it’s why FSU & Clemson & UNC are freaked out

the talent gap in the new world order will be dramatic
 
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it will take a little time , but in just a few years 98% of all the highly rated recruits will be going to P2 schools . it’s why FSU & Clemson & UNC are freaked out

the talent gap in the new world order will be dramatic
It's weird to imagine a world where a (very well-endowed) Illinois is at a fundamental advantage over a (left behind) Oklahoma State or something like that. However, if you think about it we have seen things like this before ... tons of money over time will eventually elevate you. There was a time when Utah basketball fans would have scoffed at Texas, but now everyone talks about Texas basketball potentially taking coaches from Arkansas and Illinois?! Money talks.
 
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I am beginning to wish ND never becomes a Big10 member and gets frozen out of everything.
Welcome aboard. Years ago, maybe 20, I had hoped that ND would join the Big Ten. I got over it.
 
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dgcrow

Kelso, WA
Welcome aboard. Years ago, maybe 20, I had hoped that ND would join the Big Ten. I got over it.
Me, too. About back then, ND led the Big 10 to believe it would join the conference if given a formal invitation. When that invitation was received, ND rejected it, basically stating that they were too good for the Big 10. Fine with me if the school is left out in the cold, realignment-wise.
 
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ok, we disagree.

There's going to be a P2 champ and the tier below champ. Just to be clear, this will happen after the P2 breakaway.

I don't see that happening, but who the heck knows. Reason I am dubious is that there's a lot of money in a 12 team playoff format, and it's in everyone's interest, just like March Madness, to invite a Cinderella to the dance. Way more fan interest that way. If they only have to give up 1 or 2 playoff spots for that added interest, it's a bargain.

On top of that, the Big12 still has some decent teams, and would be an obvious problem if they have a national title contender that isn't part of the playoff. Who's going to want an asterisk after their Natty because their team didn't take on a perceived Goliath that happens to not be in the P2? Same for ND. They will have some criteria by which they get in.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

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the B1G and SEC will show their muscle and each lock up at least 3 each , if not 4 spots each of the 12
leaves 4 spots to go to the other conferences and whoever
 
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I don't see that happening, but who the heck knows. Reason I am dubious is that there's a lot of money in a 12 team playoff format, and it's in everyone's interest, just like March Madness, to invite a Cinderella to the dance. Way more fan interest that way. If they only have to give up 1 or 2 playoff spots for that added interest, it's a bargain.

On top of that, the Big12 still has some decent teams, and would be an obvious problem if they have a national title contender that isn't part of the playoff. Who's going to want an asterisk after their Natty because their team didn't take on a perceived Goliath that happens to not be in the P2? Same for ND. They will have some criteria by which they get in.
Yeah, that's how I see it. A 10-2 Alabama, 11-1 Notre Dame, and hell, a 12-0 TCU all claiming the National Title. AP, Coaches, the defunct CFP committee, and dethawed BCS computers all awarding their national champion. It'd be straight up anarchy and I can't see the vast majority of college football fans wanting to go back to that. Plus non B10-SEC schools would balk at a D2 characterization and wouldn't accept it.

Interestingly if the B10 and SEC would do this in a few years they might have to slink back to the NCAA begging to be let back in, lol
 
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