David Mirkovic suffers left foot injury

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NarrowJ
jjv0004 said:
It's a fan board so people are all over the place. I am not a "Mirk is slow and not athletic" but I am also not a "he's a lottery pick." I do think he is the best player on the team.

Having said that I don't think we have a shot against Texas Tech (assuming JT Toppin healthy), Duke or UCONN without Mirk.
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Obviously that was just a fun comment I made. People [hopefully] don't really think we're going to be equivalent to Norfolk State.

If you subtract Mirk from our roster on Torvik, we only drop 6 places.

Vegas also routinely only moves a line 2-4 points when a team's best player is out.

It moves the needle a bit for sure, just not nearly as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.

With an aggressive timeline, it may be moot anyhow.
 
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Judging by boot size, he going to miss the whole season
 
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Obviously that was just a fun comment I made. People [hopefully] don't really think we're going to be equivalent to Norfolk State.

If you subtract Mirk from our roster on Torvik, we only drop 6 places.

Vegas also routinely only moves a line 2-4 points when a team's best player is out.

It moves the needle a bit for sure, just not nearly as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.

With an aggressive timeline, it may be moot anyhow.
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Do we even know what the injury is before we have any idea of a timeline?

Is it a bone spur? Did a bowling ball drop on his foot? Was he having pain and they discovered a hairline fracture? All of those suggest 6-8 weeks+ 3 to 4 weeks rehabbing into basketball shape.

Having consistent pain, writing it off to resting wherever the pain is coming frome, then finally getting it checked out to find there's an injury is not uncommon. As humans, we ignore, ignore, ignore signs until we get it checked out and the diagnosis isn't what we expect.

Now, if he was in the middle of practice and fell awkwardly, tearing ligaments.....that's a whole different ordeal.

One guy says 6-8, another says 2027, yet nobody has said what the injury actually is. Until we know that, drilling down on a timeline is impossible.

Assuming Brad will say something at some point?
 
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Fly Illini Fly!
jjv0004 said:
Having said that I don't think we have a shot against Texas Tech (assuming JT Toppin healthy), Duke or UCONN without Mirk.
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I don’t think JT Toppin will be healthy Nov. 10.

They did get two big additions via the court rulings.

Honestly just a debbie downer viewpoint if you’re counting Toppin will play for them, but ruling Mirk out for us.
 
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RollChief said:
The argument I'm making isn't necessarily about achievability (totally agree with you when you factor in Drej and Stef), but more so about whether we want our offense to depend that much on one guy. It seems like it's pretty difficult to go on a deep run when that much of your offense depends on one guy, and a much more sustainable model is to have a team of contributors and role players.
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Probably goes back to what weve talked about since the moment Vaaks joined.

If one of our guys hits alongside Mirk to be a domask-esque star, then we go from really in business. To being the favorite IMO.

And yes that includes Florida and Duke in my mind, but obviously up for reasonable debate
 
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Been a rough week for me with work and some other stuff, so I hadn't checked Loyalty as much as I would have liked and the news hit me like a ton of bricks when I saw it. I, like everyone, hope that the optimistic timetable for return is the correct one!! However, I just want to take a moment to say that I am so thankful that we are now at the point where losing a player of Mirk's caliber takes us from an OBVIOUS Final Four contender down to, what ... an obvious Elite Eight contender?? Sweet Sixteen at worst? There were countless seasons where such a loss puts us in NIT territory.

Get well soon, buddy, we need ya!
 
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NarrowJ said:
Obviously that was just a fun comment I made. People [hopefully] don't really think we're going to be equivalent to Norfolk State.

If you subtract Mirk from our roster on Torvik, we only drop 6 places.

Vegas also routinely only moves a line 2-4 points when a team's best player is out.

It moves the needle a bit for sure, just not nearly as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.

With an aggressive timeline, it may be moot anyhow.
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Taking Torvik's estimate a step further to calculate win probabilities (assuming 3pt home court advantage):

@Duke:
w/ Mirk: 30%
w/o Mirk: 24%

@TT (Tovik wouldn't let me subtract Toppin and add Williams and Atwell, so I'm taking a stab at this):
w/ Mirk: 55%
w/o Mirk: 48%

UConn (I'm giving us half the typical home court advantage):
w/ Mirk: 70%
w/o Mirk: 64%

That said, Torvik has UConn a lot lower than sportsbooks, and my guess is they'd have it around 53% with Mirk and 46% without.
 
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Do we know what happened to his foot? Obvi speculative, but is there a component of his running mechanics that is at play in the injury? He has such a unique prancing type of jog up the court, wondering whether this is putting more strain/impact on his feet than other high level athletes. Wishing him all the best and can't wait to see him back this year.
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I was thinking the same about his running style. Mostly that it could have been the cause of the metatarsal break, but yes thinking it might damper his recovery, given he has all of his weight on the front of the foot.
 
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