FBI College Basketball Corruption Investigation

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Really hope Evans admits to operating on his own accord. Feel like Underwood would be too ashamed to look Huggins in the eye if he cheated. Plus people's biggest concern with BU was his recruiting, hopefully meaning he didn't "play the game"
 
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JFGsCoffeeMug said:
You're not appreciating the nuance here.

You're right, the NCAA rules don't create federal law. But the charges in the criminal complaint require "corrupt intent." One way of determining whether an individual possessed the requisite intent for the crime is to look to their awareness of the applicable rules they were supposed to operate under, both federal and administrative.
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I don't care about whatever 'nuance' you might be seeing that I am not. The FBI investigation has nothing to do with anyone breaking NCAA rules. If breaking an NCAA rule somehow is applicable to some Federal law, that is purely coincidental.
 
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miketherevelator said:
For anybody who thinks that what came out this morning is the end of it, this goes into a little more of a doomsday scenario. Potentially, for all of college basketball, not just us or ours. I'm like others on here -- no idea if BU is guilty of anything but certainly not going to state categorically we're home free because he wasn't personally named today.

https://sports.yahoo.com/fbi-brings-armageddon-college-basketball-just-tip-iceberg-184524346.html
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Anyone up for some sleuthing to figure out who this recruit is?? I don't have time at the moment. I've bolded the important clues. ;)

“The mom is like … we need our [expletive] money,” sports agent Christian Dawkins is alleged to have said during a July 27 meeting in a Las Vegas hotel room about the mother of a top recruit in the class of 2019, according to the indictment.

It came during a meeting between Dawkins, Brad Augustine, a prominent Florida-based travel team basketball coach, an assistant coach from “University 6,” the cooperating financial planner and the undercover FBI agent, who recorded it and bugged the room.
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icengineer said:
Not at all! It's people taking bribes at Federally funded public institutions, wire fraud, SEC rules, etc. etc....

This is definitely NOT the FBI acting as NCAA enforcer.
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I think you've misunderstood my point. It's because of NCAA rules that these bribes became the norm for agents, schools, and athletes. Were it not for NCAA rules, they wouldn't be trying to pay them this way.
 
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sacraig said:
As the saying goes, there are lots of fish in the sea. Just because these people haven't talked yet, that doesn't mean there aren't still others who are actively aiding the investigation.

Meanwhile, if the Justice Department makes a show of these arrests, it can also scare additional coaches who fear they may be next to come forward and cut a deal before they end up with an indictment.

I am not necessarily saying this is likely or unlikely to touch BU in some way, but this is far from over. There likely many more coaches in jeopardy who haven't been named publicly yet.
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They've said it is not over, so I think you are on solid ground there. I'd definitely be lawyering up if my name was Rick Pitino.

I suspect we agree that for now that BU is guilty solely of associating with someone who got indicted. If that was a crime, we'd all be in trouble. It is early days to confidently say much more than that.
 
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icengineer said:
Anyone up for some sleuthing to figure out who this recruit is?? I don't have time at the moment. I've bolded the important clues. ;)
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Only recruit I can come up with that is both 1 family and a 5 star in 2019 is Balsa Koprivica. Rivals shows a Louisville offer (no clue on the accuracy).
 
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Pursuant to NCAA Bylaw 11.1.2.1, a head coach is presumed to have knowledge of what is occurring in his program and therefore, can be responsible for the actions of his staff and individuals associated with the program.
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In this context, does "presumed" mean "regardless of evidence to the contrary"? Or does it mean "until proven otherwise"?
 
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miketherevelator said:
Being as Augustine was involved in that conversation and I read somewhere that it was a recruit ranked around number 7 and it's Louisville, I'm guessing Vernon Carey, but that is also only a guess.

The U involved.
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-senate-district-40-special-election-guide-9701163
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For those playing along,
Uni 4 = Arizona
Uni 6 = Louisville
Uni 7 = Miami

Sean Miller has the extra bonus of being repped by the Sports Agency involved.


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Since my last link was wrong -- here's one naming Miami.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/26/nca...arrested-on-fraud-and-corruption-charges.html

A private school in Florida was also mentioned in the court papers, unidentified by name. It is believed to be the University of Miami, with roughly 16,000 students.

The University of Miami's director of athletics said in a statement to CNBC: "The University of Miami is aware of the indictments handed down today. ... As we are just learning the details, we cannot comment on the actions taken today by federal authorities. However, if requested, we will cooperate in any legal or NCAA review of the matter."
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kuhl84 said:
For those playing along,
Uni 4 = Arizona
Uni 6 = Louisville
Uni 7 = Miami

Sean Miller has the extra bonus of being repped by the Sports Agency involved.


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Uni 2 = South Carolina
Uni 3 = Oklahoma State
Uni 5 = U of Southern Cal
 
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