RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
FBI College Basketball Corruption Investigation
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BirdDog9048
The Chief Lives
- Chicago, IL
This is now how I believe the whole thing started. Lavar is puppet mastering all of it. :congrats:
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
If so, it's only because he couldn't get anyone to use his shoes without being bribed.
ChazzReinhold
Mom! The Meatloaf!
And the response back to you would be that the uninformed fan would not be aware UI made a statement about this situation because, well, they're uninformed.
Again, I don’t think things go that far unless he was personally actually involved.
We could be looking at dozens of big time programs at least tangentially related to this scandal. The NCAA can’t just go after everybody.
If Underwood has nothing more than tangential relationships to the wrongdoing, he’ll be one of very many coaches in that category and it’ll be no problem.
If Underwood was engaged in illegal activities (and there has been nothing at all to indicate that he has) then getting canned by the U of I may be the least of his worries.
Would it suck for the school? Yeah. Short term. But given the magnitude of this thing and the fact that nothing seems to have happened at U of I itself, there probably won’t be too much long term effect.
Actually, given our recruiting history over the last 15-ish years... some of the... odd... things that have repeatedly occurred with our recruiting, there are quite likely a lot of other schools that have way more to worry about than Illinois.
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Dan WolkenVerified account @DanWolken 41m41 minutes ago
I’m sure there’s nothing interesting in docs that might show how much $ Nike funnels to EYBL teams and which individuals cash those checks
Darren HeitnerVerified account
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Sources: Employees of Nike's EYBL grassroots division, along with documents, have been subpoenaed by FBI in furtherance of investigation
So they're going to make them change their silly rules around amateurism that prevent kids from looking out for their pro careers?
From the article.
"According to court documents, Evans is also charged with wire fraud conspiracy for participating in a scheme to facilitate and conceal bribe payments to prospective and current student-athletes and/or their families. Those athletes would have been ineligible to compete because of the payments."
I find this worrisome.
After all the posts to the contrary, we will treasure this hard won admission*
I think we'll go with Whitman on this one. We can nitpick, but we have a long way to go to grab attention from all that's going down right now.
*also tongue-in-cheek.
I imagine a lot of HC's are worried about that as well. Having knowledge would seem to put them at risk for a similar concealment charge.
OTOH, it may be that they're throwing the book at the defendants to get them to talk and see what they can get. I would be surprised to see them go this route, but then again, I was surprised with this case to begin with.
MainelyIllini
- uh, Maine
I'm just thanking our lucky stars that Jawun Evans' OV got sidetracked to Indy. Thanks to Mother Nature!
AAU basketball needs a complete change at the top. It is really sad that what most people consider AAU is only a very small percentage of actual AAU, which serves a great purpose.
wettsten
- Chicago
they didn't indict jawun evans. if he had committed to us, his name probably wouldn't have come up at all in this.
sacraig
- The desert
Personally, my read on this situation is the following:
Okay, back to work.
- This will overall be a really good thing for NCAA basketball when all the dust finally settles. Recruiting is a filthy business, and it's not good for the kids or the fans. It does benefit some coaches and schools and the shoe companies, but they generally aren't the people who need the help here. I think it would be great if it all gets cleaned up.
- Brad Underwood is obviously connected to Evans and hired him, but it stands to reason that none of these agents or shoe companies would go out of their way to involved multiple people at a program, nor would Evans want to let Underwood (or any other head coach) in on the scheme. The larger the circle gets, the more likely it is that somebody talks. In that sense, I think Underwood probably didn't know about it (or at worst, didn't know the details and turned a blind eye). To me, that means he is most likely safe from the criminal investigation.
- The NCAA rules do say that head coaches can be held accountable for their assistants, even if they weren't directly involved in an infraction. In my mind, that means that Underwood is not safe from any future NCAA investigations.
- By the time this is all said and done, there will probably be so many people caught up in it that I kind of think it is doubtful that the NCAA will hang the head coaches out to dry unless they were directly involved. Otherwise there may not be many coaches left. In that sense, I think Underwood is probably fairly safe from any major sanctions, assuming he actually is clean here.
- Even if Underwood is sanctioned, I think the University of Illinois is pretty safe. None of this allegedly occurred while here (Groce never landed any of the big fish, after all, and Underwood hasn't really landed anyone yet, other than Smith). Worst case scenario seems to be having to let Underwood go, and this whole thing is just a speed bump on the way to rebuilding.
- I love watching Pitino take the fall.
Okay, back to work.
TownieMatt
CU Expat
- Chicago
I'm sorry, someone from ESPN said Bruce Weber will end up at Louisville???
sacraig
- The desert
Ha! Let's be honest here, though. Missing on Kevin Sumlin was a blessing in disguise. The man can recruit, but he's a terrible coach. My graduate degree is from Texas A&M and I follow the football program, and holy cow can he not coach.
on the radio, said he'd be a good hire to clean up the program
I'm being sarcastic clearly they did name about 20 guys to be fair
sacraig
- The desert
Well, he's squeaky clean. What better way to clean up your reputation than by hiring someone who is so bad at recruiting that you won't be in the running for the guys demanding the big bucks anyway?
As an added bonus, it would help them avoid the death penalty because hiring Weber is like a self-imposed death penalty that takes 5 or 6 years to fully take effect.
Yep I live in Texas, you got that right! All I hear about here
MainelyIllini
- uh, Maine
I get that. It was meant as tongue in cheek. However, I understand that Jawun was one of the numbered players listed in the indictment.
RichBradIllini
- Peoria
Good summary of all considerations.
Somebody had edited the AD's wiki page but it looks like it's already been cleaned up.
“Jurich was fired on September 27th, 2017 after the Louisville basketball program was involved in an FBI investegation involving boats and hoes and five star recruits.”
“Jurich was fired on September 27th, 2017 after the Louisville basketball program was involved in an FBI investegation involving boats and hoes and five star recruits.”
Brian Bowen will not play for Louisville until the investigation is over
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I think even Weber would do one of his open-mouthed stares at that one
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