Don't know if this has been discussed or not. Disregard if so.
https://www.omaha.com/sports/nation...cle_a445e431-9aa9-578d-b07f-5a47a148af5c.html
https://www.omaha.com/sports/nation...cle_a445e431-9aa9-578d-b07f-5a47a148af5c.html
Don't know if this has been discussed or not. Disregard if so.
https://www.omaha.com/sports/nation...cle_a445e431-9aa9-578d-b07f-5a47a148af5c.html
Where did you see the police report? Or are you just taking the one quote in the article.That police report is startling.
Where did you see the police report? Or are you just taking the one quote in the article.
Certainly sounds bad on the surface, but I suspect more fights happen at basketball practice than we care to know about. Maybe we should let it play out before we through Groce under the bus just because we don't like his coaching, There is certainly some financial incentive why the plaintiff's side would want it to sound as bad as possible.
Yeah, I read that and I see very little to blame Groce for*. A basketball player punches another bball player, and the lawyer immediately thinks, who can I sue? I sure can't sue the guy who did it, because he doesn't have any money. Ah, the coach and the school, they have money, we'll sue them because they witnessed it, and have responsibilities we can tie to the incident.
*I'm not taking a position, just that the accusation needs evidence of how Groce made it happen, or was negligent to somehow allow this guy to punch him. The claims in this seem borderline outlandish, although there are circumstances that could establish a degree of negligence if he has a pattern of seeing this behavior and doing nothing meaningful.
Lawsuits, especially ones for large amounts of money for emotional distress, need a dose of skepticism before joining the justice mob.
The nature of the beating and the negligence in not helping the player get medical treatment sounds terrible. But is it just me or does discrimination against someone for being white and Catholic (in midwestern America, no less) sound like a tough case to prove?
Negligence on treatment seems to be biggest issue.The nature of the beating and the negligence in not helping the player get medical treatment sounds terrible. But is it just me or does discrimination against someone for being white and Catholic (in midwestern America, no less) sound like a tough case to prove?
Okay, good points there. I'm sure some on here are more familiar with this stuff than me. I just don't recall seeing many anti-white/anti-Catholic lawsuits being thrown around.Re: religion, depends what part of the state he's in. Catholics aren't a super minority, but you do get some pretty virulent anti-Catholic rhetoric in some places there. If there's anything in writing/text/screenshot from guys on the team giving him hell for it, he might have a case.
I'd also venture to say that his attorney wouldn't include it if he didn't think they had at least a chance of it sticking. It might not be a good chance, but I doubt they threw it in for the hell of it.
Okay, good points there. I'm sure some on here are more familiar with this stuff than me. I just don't recall seeing many anti-white/anti-Catholic lawsuits being thrown around.
Yeah, I read that and I see very little to blame Groce for*. A basketball player punches another bball player, and the lawyer immediately thinks, who can I sue? I sure can't sue the guy who did it, because he doesn't have any money. Ah, the coach and the school, they have money, we'll sue them because they witnessed it, and have responsibilities we can tie to the incident.
*I'm not taking a position, just that the accusation needs evidence of how Groce made it happen, or was negligent to somehow allow this guy to punch him. The claims in this seem borderline outlandish, although there are circumstances that could establish a degree of negligence if he has a pattern of seeing this behavior and doing nothing meaningful.
Lawsuits, especially ones for large amounts of money for emotional distress, need a dose of skepticism before joining the justice mob.
Just the line in the article. I don't think you saw me throwing Groce under the bus though. I don't doubt that fights happen in basketball practice, but I would be surprised to find out there are many that end up with one player in the ER.Where did you see the police report? Or are you just taking the one quote in the article.
Certainly sounds bad on the surface, but I suspect more fights happen at basketball practice than we care to know about. Maybe we should let it play out before we through Groce under the bus just because we don't like his coaching, There is certainly some financial incentive why the plaintiff's side would want it to sound as bad as possible.
Just the line in the article. I don't think you saw me throwing Groce under the bus though. I don't doubt that fights happen in basketball practice, but I would be surprised to find out there are many that end up with one player in the ER.
The bus comment was just me being lazy to split up the rest of the comments.Just the line in the article. I don't think you saw me throwing Groce under the bus though. I don't doubt that fights happen in basketball practice, but I would be surprised to find out there are many that end up with one player in the ER.
Or that let them forgo medical treatment on site to drive an hour or more home to get to a doctor, only to find out they need emergency surgery.
I like Groce as a person, but that's a real bad look if it's true.
It's 2019, what kind of sense does that make?A lot of you sure are jumping the gun. What happened to this kid is awful, but it's 100% premature to immediately assume Groce had anything to do with it as the lawsuit claims. This article obviously only includes one side of the story: the one told by the lawsuit. This is not the same as proven fact. Groce may be culpable in some way, but perhaps let the legal system do its thing before tossing him under the bus.