More substance would be a contract extension, which would be a terrible decision that everyone would rightly hate.
Groce/Whitman Press Conference
More substance would be a contract extension, which would be a terrible decision that everyone would rightly hate.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
Just curious--what more did you hope to hear?
Would you want that substance being an extension? If he's fired next season, wouldn't that only increase the buy-out? Not sure we could get more substance out of this ordeal.
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The actual words were much more than 'vote of confidence'
I was hoping to hear something of substance about the off-court player issues, whether it's Black, Tate, or Nunn.
RichBradIllini
- Peoria
More guest speakers? :faint:
I think part of that reason is that we're still in disbelief of how far we've fallen so quickly. 5-10 years ago you could argue we were a top 15 program. Obviously that's not the case anymore and the fact that we never got that championship ('89 or '05) prevents us from separating ourselves from about 50 other schools.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
Dr. Phil....:thumb:
1. Yes. Lets say he gets the 2017 top 5 class we all want signed and then god forbid Malcolm misses a big chunk of the season and we fall short by a game of getting in. That is why you never say never.
2. I think Cubit being second in charge when the whole Beckman injury thing was a big part of letting him go. I just don't think he wouldn't know anything unless the players in question didn't think enough of him to go to him for help.
Were you were hoping for speculation? That wouldn't be ethical at all at this stage.
That's fine, make Whitman answer those questions.
Werner is saying on twitter that he doesn't think today is about on-court stuff. That's a total abdication of his journalistic responsibility here, IMO.
Perhaps they would if Groce wasn't standing there with him.
If anyone deserves to know the answers to those questions, it's Groce.
How does us knowing the answers to either of these help the state of the Illinois Basketball? I the answer to the first one is "no", recruiting is shot.
I would think this is spot on. Didn't someone say Tilmon's mom was put off by the arrests? I think the bigger question is how much of JW's confidence in Groce is related to silent verbals in the 2017 class?
I would think he would have already told him that in the end of season revue. Putting Whitman in that situation on stage with Groce next to him ? You ask Whitman that when he is alone.
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
Screw me...
I guess Tom thibodeau didn't answer his phone when josh called. Ugh why can't we be rid of this disaster?
I guess Tom thibodeau didn't answer his phone when josh called. Ugh why can't we be rid of this disaster?
Too busy eating Steak and watching game film. Gotta watch more game film.
This is your only chance. This is the public air clearing. Ask the real questions.
This is just a difference in opinion. Doesn't mean that Werner is wrong for not asking.
I hope it is:
"Offense and Defense"
or
"Take a Good Shot"
or
"Fear not the Rebound"
or
"Chukkers Ride the Pine"
or
"No Moral Victories"
IlliniDent
- Chicago, IL
Yea because his answer to that will matter at all. Do you really think he will say anything of consequence there?? He will dodge both, give answers that would say we back coach for xyz and will continue to do so. It holds him to nothing and backs a coach in the meantime rather than putting us in a spot worse than just firing him (having a lame duck that can't recruit as a result). We would have gotten 0 information out of those.
Sure would be great to get some substance but honestly there is more chance to harm our program than otherwise.
Sit me in the corner, then. I want know more. =P
Illini_1979
- Oregon
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