Illini Basketball 2016-2017

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#127      
It wasn't flat in high school, either. I think he had the freshman jitters and it affected all parts of his game.

Agreed. I've always been impressed by his workouts, hopefully it translates to success on the court sooner than later.
 
#128      

CAHALL15

Central Illinois
Real action was on campus this summer. I know of 3 that stayed thru Spring/Summer--Kipper and LeRon and part time, JCL.

According to the recent Malcolm Hill interview, it sounds like he did as well. I would bet that Finke was around quite a bit since he is from Champaign.
 
#129      

Joel Goodson

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Think the game is going to really slow down for AJ this season and his results will vastly improve accordingly.
 
#130      
Think the game is going to really slow down for AJ this season and his results will vastly improve accordingly.

We need AJ's 3 pt. shooting to improve dramatically. The loss of Nunn's 75 three's and almost 40% is big. I thought in videos I saw that AJ was a better shooter than JCL, but obviously the results didn't indicate such. Defensively, AJ needs to improve, too.
 
#131      
We need AJ's 3 pt. shooting to improve dramatically. The loss of Nunn's 75 three's and almost 40% is big. I thought in videos I saw that AJ was a better shooter than JCL, but obviously the results didn't indicate such. Defensively, AJ needs to improve, too.

Luckily the jump in skills improvement is usually greatest from freshman to sophomore season. Hopefully we have 5 guys making that jump
 
#132      
Luckily the jump in skills improvement is usually greatest from freshman to sophomore season. Hopefully we have 5 guys making that jump

Barring injuries, there will be limited PT at 2-3. With Thorne/Black coming back, and Mav having improved, Hill will not likely see much time at the 4 this year (a good thing). At the same time, that pushes many committed minutes at 2-3 with Hill and JCL getting major minutes. So there will be fierce competition for backup minutes between Kipper, DJW, and AJ at 2-3. There will definitely be winners and losers in that group.
 
#134      
Eh, he shot 34% on the season, which is pretty good for most freshmen. JCL is not your typical case.

Where he need dramatic improvement is on defense so the coaches can feel comfortable leaving him out there.

A little boost in AJ's defense would really go a long way for him.
 
#135      

Joel Goodson

respect my decision™
Maybe it's the kool-aid, but I think we'll see a much improved AJ this season.
 
#136      
We need AJ's 3 pt. shooting to improve dramatically. The loss of Nunn's 75 three's and almost 40% is big. I thought in videos I saw that AJ was a better shooter than JCL, but obviously the results didn't indicate such. Defensively, AJ needs to improve, too.

I agree. I thought JCL and AJ would have been reversed last year going in. But I guess thats why JCL was rated so much higher. Ratings proved correct on that one. I still feel AJ will be a big time scorer at some point.
 
#137      
I agree. I thought JCL and AJ would have been reversed last year going in. But I guess thats why JCL was rated so much higher. Ratings proved correct on that one. I still feel AJ will be a big time scorer at some point.

I'm curious to why people thought this. JCL had a higher shooting percentage from the 3 in high school and was just as lethal off the dribble or pass. Plus JCL played much better competition.
 
#138      

TownieMatt

CU Expat
Chicago
Watching that video, it strikes me how low AJs shot motion starts. He seems to bring the ball up from about knee level when shooting, which really lengthens the time it takes him to get a shot off. I noticed that last year as well. He seemed to only be able to get his shot off when he had plenty of time and space.
 
#139      
Didn't both JCL and AJ shoot around 45-50% from 3 in HS. Here's a 3pt. contest JCL participated in @ LaLu. I will find the one for AJ too. Personally, I think AJ was the better of the two in HS, but in their Freshman year it wasn't even close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7AagiSHtsc
 
#140      
Didn't both JCL and AJ shoot around 45-50% from 3 in HS. Here's a 3pt. contest JCL participated in @ LaLu. I will find the one for AJ too. Personally, I think AJ was the better of the two in HS, but in their Freshman year it wasn't even close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7AagiSHtsc

Here's the AJ video shooting the 3's for the Beal drill. Personally, I think just looking at videos that AJ is the better shooter.
Also, AJ's shooting from the college 3 pt line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKEMSFWyrU4
 
#141      
Eh, he shot 34% on the season, which is pretty good for most freshmen. JCL is not your typical case.

Where he need dramatic improvement is on defense so the coaches can feel comfortable leaving him out there.

AJ is a better defender than JCL, but JCL is just a dead eye shooter.
 
#142      
AJ is a better defender than JCL, but JCL is just a dead eye shooter.

Not last season. AJ had trouble moving his feet and resorted to using his hands a lot. JCL was lost early in the season, but I think he was pretty good by the end. He has quick feet and forced quite a few steals with his active hands.
 
#143      
I'm curious to why people thought this. JCL had a higher shooting percentage from the 3 in high school and was just as lethal off the dribble or pass. Plus JCL played much better competition.

I think a lot of it had to do with his dad posting on here. It gave us an inside look at his hard work.
 
#144      
Think the game is going to really slow down for AJ this season and his results will vastly improve accordingly.
This is key right here. The kid looks great in workout, but on the floor he looked flustered and out-of-sorts. The game slowing down will allow his hard work to shine.
 
#145      
Maybe it's the kool-aid, but I think we'll see a much improved AJ this season.

I agree. I still believe that AJ is going to be a very effective 4 year player for us. I liked him in high school and I still like him.
 
#146      
Don't forget that JCL did not get to practice all last summer and fall until 3 days before the season started because of his stress fracture.
 
#147      
I thought AJ and JCL looked equally lost on D most of the season but JCL made up for it with his active hands getting steals, and obviously he was more college ready offensively, probably due to playing a higher level of competition in prep school. AJ will be just fine going forward IMO, and I really look forward to seeing his progress on the court.
 
#148      
With injuries and suspensions I'd say we all agree with the starting lineup to start the season: Abrams, JCL, Hill, Finke, Thorne

The better discussion is by mid season/big ten play what is our starting lineup and main contributors off the bench:
Abrams
JCL
Hill
Black
Thorne

Top 3 off of Bench: Lucas, Finke, DJW

Next off Bench: Morgan, Kipper, Jordan, Tate
 
#149      
With injuries and suspensions I'd say we all agree with the starting lineup to start the season: Abrams, JCL, Hill, Finke, Thorne

The better discussion is by mid season/big ten play what is our starting lineup and main contributors off the bench:
Abrams
JCL
Hill
Black
Thorne

Top 3 off of Bench: Lucas, Finke, DJW

Next off Bench: Morgan, Kipper, Jordan, Tate

I think match ups might play some in how the bench is played...do we need to play big or do we play small?

We love playing all these scenarios so I'll play along:

Three Point threats:
Abrams
Jordan
JCL
Hill
Finke

Rebounding:
Abrams
Hill
Jordan
Black
Thorne

Play big:
Hill
JCL
DJW/Black
Finke
Thorne

The Future
Lucas
JCL
DJW
Black
Finke

Old Farts
Abrams/Tate
Austin
Hill
Morgan
Thorne

And on and on and on
 
#150      
I think match ups might play some in how the bench is played...do we need to play big or do we play small?

We love playing all these scenarios so I'll play along:

Three Point threats:
Abrams
Jordan
JCL
Hill
Finke

Rebounding:
Abrams
Hill
Jordan
Black
Thorne

Play big:
Hill
JCL
DJW/Black
Finke
Thorne

The Future
Lucas
JCL
DJW
Black
Finke

Old Farts
Abrams/Tate
Austin
Hill
Morgan
Thorne

And on and on and on

Black will never play the 3...
 
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