Illini Basketball 2017-2018

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peoriabball13 said:
Yes please no more post halftime scoring droughts and slow poor decision making basketball. Ready for a semi aggressive leader not the rub your back and tell you its ok, calm coach. Give me Thibedou not Hoiberg. Look the players in the eye and tell them you mean business without freaking out and talking down to them. They will respect you. If a player is too soft for that style then go play elsewhere.
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So, you had a problem with our half time strategy of:

"Change nothing, on second thought, maybe bring the ball up even slower in the second half. Let those guys change their play to expose what we've been doing" ;)
 
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breadman said:
The one thing I want to see eliminated for this team is the mid-season slump rut we have been getting into. We would win early, get into that rut, then try to win out at the end for a really annoying roller coaster league season. Let's hope BU can get rid of it.
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The middle third of Illinois’ schedule looks like the toughest stretch of the season. So you’re probably looking at another mid-season “lull.”
 
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FollowTisdale said:
You see a lull, I see knocking Northwestern out of the top 25 on what will basically be a neutral court.
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I'm extremely hopeful more orange will be there considering how early in the season it is and how much hope/excitement there is around the program.
 
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VAIllini35 said:
So, you had a problem with our half time strategy of:

"Change nothing, on second thought, maybe bring the ball up even slower in the second half. Let those guys change their play to expose what we've been doing" ;)
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What drove me batty was the programed substitution patterns. TJL and JCL start the game out hot, finally starting TJL, we have Iowa on the run 10-0 and Groce pulls the guards after fricking 4 minutes. Or the game Kipper was hot in the first half, leading us with 11 or so points and we were in the game, and then he doesn't play for the for the first 8 or so minutes of the 2nd half. This isn't painting by numbers, Coach Groce. You have to see the flow on the court.
 
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Thanks a lot, everyone. I had finally managed to forget about our January slumps, frustrating substitution patterns, and ugly second-half basketball under Groce. And now it's fresh again, like a new punch to the stomach.
 
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Spoon House said:
how does anybody have a garage that clean
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When do you think he is ever home to do anything to make it dirty. He's probably on the road or at Ubben 25 hours a day. And if it looked like he actually had a hobby or was working around the house, I would be worried if he's putting in enough time with the program.
 
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jmilt7 said:
Kedric Prince Quad Cities Dispatch Argus article:

Will Illinois be the surprise hoops team this season?

http://www.qconline.com/sports/college_sports/will-illinois-be-the-surprise-hoops-team-this-season/article_674c5d16-a530-5392-a425-789e4c29421a.html
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Question: while we don't have stats, we do know Illinois scrimmaged Vanderbilt. Therefore, is still considered a secret scrimmage :confused: ;)

I do like how Underwood will use predicted low finish as motivation while at the same time not saying where we will finish..
 
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icengineer said:
He was dressing the guys down there at practice. Did it say what the date was? Curious....
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He told the rotary club that they had 18 days til tipoff, so Oct 23rd???

He was right in practice. They have a losing problem. And their lack of intensity and emotion and communication will probably big their biggest hill to conquer this year.

I tell my kids that all the time. Their body language is incredibly important whenever they play sports, especially team sports. One person, even the coach, with bad body language, can infect the entire team.
 
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icengineer said:
He was dressing the guys down there at practice. Did it say what the date was? Curious....
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I checked the Champaign Rotary web site and he was scheduled to give a talk on Oct. 23rd
 
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illinifan3923 said:
CBS posted their rankings of all teams 1-351 today. Illinois is all the way down at 85, but thought it was funny to see Wake Forest at 86 considering how their message board views their team.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ranking-all-351-college-basketball-teams-from-duke-to-alabama-a-m/
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Here are all the rankings for our non-conference foes from cbssports.
Southern 265
UT Martin 240
DePaul 106
Marshall 238
Augustana (IL) n/a
North Carolina Central 236
Wake Forest 86
Austin Peay 270
UNLV 148
Longwood 326
New Mexico State 115
Missouri 37
Grand Canyon 78

From:

https://writingillini.com/2017/11/02/illinois-basketball-illini-opponents-ranked/
 
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IlliniJim20 said:
Question: while we don't have stats, we do know Illinois scrimmaged Vanderbilt. Therefore, is still considered a secret scrimmage :confused: ;)

I do like how Underwood will use predicted low finish as motivation while at the same time not saying where we will finish..
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We do know some statistics from the game. Go back a few pages if you’re curious.
 
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TheFameProtector

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Peoria Illini said:
He told the rotary club that they had 18 days til tipoff, so Oct 23rd???

He was right in practice. They have a losing problem. And their lack of intensity and emotion and communication will probably big their biggest hill to conquer this year.

I tell my kids that all the time. Their body language is incredibly important whenever they play sports, especially team sports. One person, even the coach, with bad body language, can infect the entire team.
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After seeing that portion of the video, I'm looking to a combo of people to step up and be leaders, but I'm especially thinking/hoping that Trent will be that guy. He seems to have that excitement factor about him that will hopefully translate to vocal leadership.

On the note of vocal leadership, there was an article on The Ringer about Devon Booker and Jared Dudley was assessing his defense (or lack thereof) and had a theory that the younger kids these days spend so much time on social media that their ability to communicate verbally has decreased. He attributed Booker's poor defense at the moment to being a result of not communicating. I wonder if this phenomenon makes coaching (specifically finding leaders on your team) a bit more difficult than it once was.
 
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SeattleSlim said:
Here's hoping that many of those rankings take a significant jump up before we actually play them ... or our SOS will be sorely lacking.
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It funny how many have us winning DePaul, New Mexico State and Grand Canyon, but losing to UNLV....guess that's why we have to play the games...rankings may not mean much.

On a side note if these stay the same, we have MSU, Minnesota, Northwestern, and Purdue in Top 25....when is the last time we had to pin our hopes for in conference rankings to help boost us up on those 4 minus MSU really?:chief:
 
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We play Augustana NOv 22. Augustana is a D3 school. According to the Augustana website, while the game is exempt for them, it will count as a regular season game for Illini. When is the last time we played a D3 school in a game that counted? They lost in the finals of the NCAA D3 championship game last year, have 4 starters back - why are we playing them in anything other than an exhibition?
 
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MadIllini4 said:
Just hanging out on youtube when I stumbled upon this. A day with Brad Underwood.
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Fun to see that.

BU has his work cut out for him changing the culture. Think he's up for the task, but it's still a pretty big project.
 
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Peoria Illini said:
He told the rotary club that they had 18 days til tipoff, so Oct 23rd???

He was right in practice. They have a losing problem. And their lack of intensity and emotion and communication will probably big their biggest hill to conquer this year.

I tell my kids that all the time. Their body language is incredibly important whenever they play sports, especially team sports. One person, even the coach, with bad body language, can infect the entire team.
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I don't expect this to be a problem, energy is always high when a new coach comes in. And if you don't want to play hard for a coach who has never missed the tourney and has the best offense in the country then you've got big problems.

But what many losing teams struggle with as they transform into a winning team is figuring out how to win close games. That is what will decide whether we make the tournament or not. We will win a handful of games easily, and get beat badly in a few games. But the majority of our games will come down to the last 3-5 minutes. Do we have guys who can execute and make shots with the game on the line? My fear is that we do, but those guys are freshmen who can't do it consistently yet.

If we do miss the tournament, I think it will be because we lost a ton of close games. And I would be ok with that because it's good learning experience for the young guys and we got beat badly way too many times under Groce.
 
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