Illini Basketball 2023-2024

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#51      
We went 17-2 at home last year (and we all know about last year...). Only a very small handful of P5 teams with a better record.

I'd guess 39-7 in the last 3 years would be a top 10 (possibly top 5) home record among P5 teams.

Think we're asking for a lot to improve on that and it's a huge stretch to act like the current results are subpar. We play in the B1G, we're going to lose a couple at home.
On top of all this, we have a chance to do something this year that no team (B1G or otherwise) has done: Win four straight times at the Kohl Center.

The only other team to win three in a row is Ohio State, back in Kohl’s early days. Even Michigan State, which at one time had an eight game winning streak against the Badgers, has never won three in a row at Kohl.
 
#52      

Tophe

Middle TN
Where can we buy these? I don’t see a link listed on either Illinois or mizzou schedule website.
It's also not listed on the website for the Enterprise Center yet (or on TicketBastard)

This year might be different but last year at this time tickets were only available to I FUND and season ticket holders and general public tickets went on sale on November 30.
 
#53      
Where can we buy these? I don’t see a link listed on either Illinois or mizzou schedule website.
My bad...the email was referring to an Illini v. Mizzou Wrestling event at the Stifel Theater in St. Louis on 12/21...I saw the logos and assumed it was the Braggin' Rights game...I apologize
 
#55      
I would expect him to be. He's had another year to train, with his eye on the prize. 1st round pick.

As long as he doesn't lean to far towards "getting his" vs being a mature, experienced, talented, and motivated player he can be, he should be great.

I am very excited for this team, if they are all set on team success. Time will tell.
 
#58      
That is pretty good and so is making the NCAAT. I would love to be better than pretty good. Want teams to be fearful to playing Illinois in CU.
I will say that it’s noticeable that our reputation as an absolute house of horrors for opponents has not returned to what it was circa 2006. I would love people to talk about our atmosphere like they do Mackey. It’s had flashes over the last 4 years, but we need the consistency.

I think three main obstacles are keeping us in that “next best” tier of home court advantages in the Big Ten, rather than arguably #1 like we were in 2006:

1. It’s a snowball effect, and we need a few more years of it improving. I remember I went to Assembly Hall for the first time in the mid-2000s, and even “relaxed” parents and older folks felt social PRESSURE to be loud, engaged, standing, etc. simply because that was the vibe, and you didn’t want to stick out like a sore thumb. We are working our way back to that, but l think our crowd is still at the stage where people *react* to the game rather than *influence* the momentum.

2. Our “we are back” year in 2019-20 was ripped away by COVID, and then our best team since 2005 - Big Ten champions and a #1 seed - occurred during a season with no fans. It set us back 2 years in developing the atmosphere at SFC again.

3. The Krush just simply isn’t back to its mid-2000s form. I don’t know if that’s just like a smart phone problem that transcends programs everywhere, but let’s just be real here … watch any 2005 home game on YouTube, and compare the Krush’s enthusiasm to even our bigger games today. It’s not even close. Don’t get me wrong, the Krush is great and loud during the big moments, but again they don’t CREATE the buzz that they used to during the slower moments of the game (which trickles out to the energy of the rest of the stadium). I rarely see the whole Krush jumping up and down while we are on defense, for example - something that was a staple in our heyday.
 
#59      
I will say that it’s noticeable that our reputation as an absolute house of horrors for opponents has not returned to what it was circa 2006. I would love people to talk about our atmosphere like they do Mackey. It’s had flashes over the last 4 years, but we need the consistency.

I think three main obstacles are keeping us in that “next best” tier of home court advantages in the Big Ten, rather than arguably #1 like we were in 2006:

1. It’s a snowball effect, and we need a few more years of it improving. I remember I went to Assembly Hall for the first time in the mid-2000s, and even “relaxed” parents and older folks felt social PRESSURE to be loud, engaged, standing, etc. simply because that was the vibe, and you didn’t want to stick out like a sore thumb. We are working our way back to that, but l think our crowd is still at the stage where people *react* to the game rather than *influence* the momentum.

2. Our “we are back” year in 2019-20 was ripped away by COVID, and then our best team since 2005 - Big Ten champions and a #1 seed - occurred during a season with no fans. It set us back 2 years in developing the atmosphere at SFC again.

3. The Krush just simply isn’t back to its mid-2000s form. I don’t know if that’s just like a smart phone problem that transcends programs everywhere, but let’s just be real here … watch any 2005 home game on YouTube, and compare the Krush’s enthusiasm to even our bigger games today. It’s not even close. Don’t get me wrong, the Krush is great and loud during the big moments, but again they don’t CREATE the buzz that they used to during the slower moments of the game (which trickles out to the energy of the rest of the stadium). I rarely see the whole Krush jumping up and down while we are on defense, for example - something that was a staple in our heyday.
There is another real problem. I went to Illinois for my BS and Purdue for my MS. Mackey is a tin can that is just loud as hell by the nature of how the building was built. The assembly hall is cavernous and concrete. It’s like seeing concerts in the 70’s they were never as loud in the assembly hall as in other venues.
 
#61      
I will say that it’s noticeable that our reputation as an absolute house of horrors for opponents has not returned to what it was circa 2006. I would love people to talk about our atmosphere like they do Mackey. It’s had flashes over the last 4 years, but we need the consistency.

I think three main obstacles are keeping us in that “next best” tier of home court advantages in the Big Ten, rather than arguably #1 like we were in 2006:

1. It’s a snowball effect, and we need a few more years of it improving. I remember I went to Assembly Hall for the first time in the mid-2000s, and even “relaxed” parents and older folks felt social PRESSURE to be loud, engaged, standing, etc. simply because that was the vibe, and you didn’t want to stick out like a sore thumb. We are working our way back to that, but l think our crowd is still at the stage where people *react* to the game rather than *influence* the momentum.

2. Our “we are back” year in 2019-20 was ripped away by COVID, and then our best team since 2005 - Big Ten champions and a #1 seed - occurred during a season with no fans. It set us back 2 years in developing the atmosphere at SFC again.

3. The Krush just simply isn’t back to its mid-2000s form. I don’t know if that’s just like a smart phone problem that transcends programs everywhere, but let’s just be real here … watch any 2005 home game on YouTube, and compare the Krush’s enthusiasm to even our bigger games today. It’s not even close. Don’t get me wrong, the Krush is great and loud during the big moments, but again they don’t CREATE the buzz that they used to during the slower moments of the game (which trickles out to the energy of the rest of the stadium). I rarely see the whole Krush jumping up and down while we are on defense, for example - something that was a staple in our heyday.
I went to several game last year and it seemed like every time we'd make a run or make some big play, it was followed by a dumb three by Mayer which led to a long rebound and outlet for a transition bucket. Then everyone kinda just sat down and chilled. Someone else mentioned this, but whenever they show someone om the screen to get the fans pumped up, it never really works. It has to be more organic. Unless it's the Will Ferrell Anchorman one, that always gets us millennials going.

The two times in recent memory that SFC has been truly loud was when the Murrays kept clanging free throws to help us win the B1G and the rally we made after Underwood got ejected in the OSU game. We go to 3-4 games a year and generally bigger match ups.
 
#62      

Bigtex

DFW
I went to several game last year and it seemed like every time we'd make a run or make some big play, it was followed by a dumb three by Mayer which led to a long rebound and outlet for a transition bucket. Then everyone kinda just sat down and chilled. Someone else mentioned this, but whenever they show someone om the screen to get the fans pumped up, it never really works. It has to be more organic. Unless it's the Will Ferrell Anchorman one, that always gets us millennials going.

The two times in recent memory that SFC has been truly loud was when the Murrays kept clanging free throws to help us win the B1G and the rally we made after Underwood got ejected in the OSU game. We go to 3-4 games a year and generally bigger match ups.
Dumb 3’s weren’t limited to only Mayer. Hawkins, Shannon, Epps, Danija, etc each had their share of poor shot attempts and not limited to 3’s.

What we have seen (summer and Ottawa) so far much better ball movement but imo still too many 3’s. Looking forward to see ball movement and shot selection against Kansas
 
#66      
I will say that it’s noticeable that our reputation as an absolute house of horrors for opponents has not returned to what it was circa 2006. I would love people to talk about our atmosphere like they do Mackey. It’s had flashes over the last 4 years, but we need the consistency.

I think three main obstacles are keeping us in that “next best” tier of home court advantages in the Big Ten, rather than arguably #1 like we were in 2006:

1. It’s a snowball effect, and we need a few more years of it improving. I remember I went to Assembly Hall for the first time in the mid-2000s, and even “relaxed” parents and older folks felt social PRESSURE to be loud, engaged, standing, etc. simply because that was the vibe, and you didn’t want to stick out like a sore thumb. We are working our way back to that, but l think our crowd is still at the stage where people *react* to the game rather than *influence* the momentum.

2. Our “we are back” year in 2019-20 was ripped away by COVID, and then our best team since 2005 - Big Ten champions and a #1 seed - occurred during a season with no fans. It set us back 2 years in developing the atmosphere at SFC again.

3. The Krush just simply isn’t back to its mid-2000s form. I don’t know if that’s just like a smart phone problem that transcends programs everywhere, but let’s just be real here … watch any 2005 home game on YouTube, and compare the Krush’s enthusiasm to even our bigger games today. It’s not even close. Don’t get me wrong, the Krush is great and loud during the big moments, but again they don’t CREATE the buzz that they used to during the slower moments of the game (which trickles out to the energy of the rest of the stadium). I rarely see the whole Krush jumping up and down while we are on defense, for example - something that was a staple in our heyday.
In my opinion, Krush is supposed to be a cheering section, but it seems to be focused elsewhere.

In the way old days of the 1980’s we didn’t fundraise. The students in Krush (Orange Crush in those days) were the the most passionate about the game.
 
#68      
Someone said there were no complaints, so I'll throw something out there. (Cup on. Helmet on. Asbestos on. Soapbox, on. Mouthing off.)

I watched the replay last night. While we won, I think that if the team play like this going forward they are an 8-10 seed, and don't make the second weekend.

The good:
The team seemed to be "a team". The around the horn play was beautiful. There should be multiple of those per half. The give/go from Goode on the break at the 3 pt line showed some thinking and team play.

Amani will be a player. Kudos to BU for giving him a few minutes to get his !!! kicked and learn why he isn't ready yet first hand. Harris makes me smile. TSJ is likely going in the 1st round.

The unknown:
Coleman was hard to evaluate. He got burned repeatedly. He was also playing center without any help defense support. There is only so much he could do. His shot looked better. His attitude looked good. He was certainly trying hard. He was staying calm, even when things went wrong or when he got hit hard. That is a great sign.

I kept mixing up QG and Domask mentally, so I have no idea which did what, when. (Such incompetence must invalidate everything else said, right?)

The bad:

Defense:
A steady stream of layups were given. Some were on well designed plays. Many were from a lack of help defense. It was nowhere to be seen. Dickenson looks really good in the 2nd half on the pick and roll plays. Multiple easy layups and lob finishes.

Harmon could not stay in front of his man. He couldn't (didn't) do it in Italy either.

General:
Luke had a horrible game. Cold shooting and defensive lapses. If both don't improve dramatically, I start to get worried about our rotation depth. A real shame since I was 60% sure he was going to be a starter for shooting and defense. I liked what I saw his freshman year.

Offense:
Many of the possessions seemed to be without designed plays, or broke down quickly. We often drove, and then when stopped went to a 2-man game on one side of the court where the ball never really moved. The 2-man game was being defended by 3 players; the two assigned, and a rotational helper. The offense died on those possessions.

As we repeated plays, KS started picking up on them, so the offense was degrading as the game went on. What happens with a little scouting?

The cuts were not crisp and the few that were were not rewarded. (Glass half full: At least some people were moving and trying to cut.)

The following while "PG" related, are on the team: No ball handler seemed be able to handle hard 1:1 pressure. (Playing against their equivalent of Sencire.) When the ball handler was under pressure, and thus not able to start the play, people just stood in their starting positions waiting, often 3-5s. When the ball handler got in trouble or picked up their dribble, help was very slow to arrive. There will be 5s calls unless this changes. There were multiple TOs or near TOs handling the ball outside of the 3pt arc. People were looking to initiate a play and forgetting to protect the ball. The team was lost when they held the ball until the last 10s of the clock. KS knew to sit on TSJ.

Free throws. If I'm the opposing coach, I'm going to play some variation of hack-an-illini, especially in the last 5 minutes. At least one of my lower rotation players is fouling out, possibly three or four.

My takeaway [pulling out my pipe and settling back into my overstuffed armchair]:

I suspect this team needs to be coached and play very differently than prior BU teams. This set of players should do very well given strong structure; they seem to have the "team" mentality to accept it. Imagine WI under Bo with athletes like these. I'd drill a set of offensive plays that emphasize cuts until they can do them in their sleep. Don't think. MOVE (Demetri).

I do not think this is a deep rotation team. There are 12 scholarship players. 3-5 of which are not ready (severe defensive liabilities). Another player is at best spot minutes.

Prediction: If the offense shifts to almost 100% designed plays, with heavy emphasis on cuttting, and clear fallbacks if the first play stalls, then team is likely 2nd/3rd in the BT and a 3-4 seed who makes the second weekend. [Hey, who splashed this orange !!!! on my glasses.] Otherwise they are 4th to 6th in the BT and anywhere from a 6-10 seed. Either way, I think it is "what seed" vs. "do we get an invite."

[Stepping down from the soap box. I'm not foolish enough to take off the protection.]

My next viewing is Marquette. I wish they never scheduled bottom 1/3rd teams (Sagarin rank 250+). We don't get useful reps or learning. Mistakes need to cost for people to learn. If anything, I think these games encourage bad habits.
 
#69      
Someone said there were no complaints, so I'll throw something out there. (Cup on. Helmet on. Asbestos on. Soapbox, on. Mouthing off.)

I watched the replay last night. While we won, I think that if the team play like this going forward they are an 8-10 seed, and don't make the second weekend.

The good:
The team seemed to be "a team". The around the horn play was beautiful. There should be multiple of those per half. The give/go from Goode on the break at the 3 pt line showed some thinking and team play.

Amani will be a player. Kudos to BU for giving him a few minutes to get his !!! kicked and learn why he isn't ready yet first hand. Harris makes me smile. TSJ is likely going in the 1st round.

The unknown:
Coleman was hard to evaluate. He got burned repeatedly. He was also playing center without any help defense support. There is only so much he could do. His shot looked better. His attitude looked good. He was certainly trying hard. He was staying calm, even when things went wrong or when he got hit hard. That is a great sign.

I kept mixing up QG and Domask mentally, so I have no idea which did what, when. (Such incompetence must invalidate everything else said, right?)

The bad:

Defense:
A steady stream of layups were given. Some were on well designed plays. Many were from a lack of help defense. It was nowhere to be seen. Dickenson looks really good in the 2nd half on the pick and roll plays. Multiple easy layups and lob finishes.

Harmon could not stay in front of his man. He couldn't (didn't) do it in Italy either.

General:
Luke had a horrible game. Cold shooting and defensive lapses. If both don't improve dramatically, I start to get worried about our rotation depth. A real shame since I was 60% sure he was going to be a starter for shooting and defense. I liked what I saw his freshman year.

Offense:
Many of the possessions seemed to be without designed plays, or broke down quickly. We often drove, and then when stopped went to a 2-man game on one side of the court where the ball never really moved. The 2-man game was being defended by 3 players; the two assigned, and a rotational helper. The offense died on those possessions.

As we repeated plays, KS started picking up on them, so the offense was degrading as the game went on. What happens with a little scouting?

The cuts were not crisp and the few that were were not rewarded. (Glass half full: At least some people were moving and trying to cut.)

The following while "PG" related, are on the team: No ball handler seemed be able to handle hard 1:1 pressure. (Playing against their equivalent of Sencire.) When the ball handler was under pressure, and thus not able to start the play, people just stood in their starting positions waiting, often 3-5s. When the ball handler got in trouble or picked up their dribble, help was very slow to arrive. There will be 5s calls unless this changes. There were multiple TOs or near TOs handling the ball outside of the 3pt arc. People were looking to initiate a play and forgetting to protect the ball. The team was lost when they held the ball until the last 10s of the clock. KS knew to sit on TSJ.

Free throws. If I'm the opposing coach, I'm going to play some variation of hack-an-illini, especially in the last 5 minutes. At least one of my lower rotation players is fouling out, possibly three or four.

My takeaway [pulling out my pipe and settling back into my overstuffed armchair]:

I suspect this team needs to be coached and play very differently than prior BU teams. This set of players should do very well given strong structure; they seem to have the "team" mentality to accept it. Imagine WI under Bo with athletes like these. I'd drill a set of offensive plays that emphasize cuts until they can do them in their sleep. Don't think. MOVE (Demetri).

I do not think this is a deep rotation team. There are 12 scholarship players. 3-5 of which are not ready (severe defensive liabilities). Another player is at best spot minutes.

Prediction: If the offense shifts to almost 100% designed plays, with heavy emphasis on cuttting, and clear fallbacks if the first play stalls, then team is likely 2nd/3rd in the BT and a 3-4 seed who makes the second weekend. [Hey, who splashed this orange !!!! on my glasses.] Otherwise they are 4th to 6th in the BT and anywhere from a 6-10 seed. Either way, I think it is "what seed" vs. "do we get an invite."

[Stepping down from the soap box. I'm not foolish enough to take off the protection.]

My next viewing is Marquette. I wish they never scheduled bottom 1/3rd teams (Sagarin rank 250+). We don't get useful reps or learning. Mistakes need to cost for people to learn. If anything, I think these games encourage bad habits.
I don't know, the team has definitely passed the "eye test" for me against both ends of the spectrum from a talent/competition standpoint in Ottawa and Kansas. While I don't think Kansas had a great game, they still had some of the most talented players in the college game on the court last night. Would we have beaten Tennessee, for example, with our play? Possibly not, but this team still has some upside from what we have seen and I do not think last year's team is within 12-15 of Kansas last night. I will take what we have at this point in the pre season any year, and am very pleasantly surprised by what I have seen so far.

One thing about it, we will have a real good idea by mid-December if we are for real or not.
 
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#71      
Someone said there were no complaints, so I'll throw something out there. (Cup on. Helmet on. Asbestos on. Soapbox, on. Mouthing off.)

I watched the replay last night. While we won, I think that if the team play like this going forward they are an 8-10 seed, and don't make the second weekend.

The good:
The team seemed to be "a team". The around the horn play was beautiful. There should be multiple of those per half. The give/go from Goode on the break at the 3 pt line showed some thinking and team play.

Amani will be a player. Kudos to BU for giving him a few minutes to get his !!! kicked and learn why he isn't ready yet first hand. Harris makes me smile. TSJ is likely going in the 1st round.

The unknown:
Coleman was hard to evaluate. He got burned repeatedly. He was also playing center without any help defense support. There is only so much he could do. His shot looked better. His attitude looked good. He was certainly trying hard. He was staying calm, even when things went wrong or when he got hit hard. That is a great sign.

I kept mixing up QG and Domask mentally, so I have no idea which did what, when. (Such incompetence must invalidate everything else said, right?)

The bad:

Defense:
A steady stream of layups were given. Some were on well designed plays. Many were from a lack of help defense. It was nowhere to be seen. Dickenson looks really good in the 2nd half on the pick and roll plays. Multiple easy layups and lob finishes.

Harmon could not stay in front of his man. He couldn't (didn't) do it in Italy either.

General:
Luke had a horrible game. Cold shooting and defensive lapses. If both don't improve dramatically, I start to get worried about our rotation depth. A real shame since I was 60% sure he was going to be a starter for shooting and defense. I liked what I saw his freshman year.

Offense:
Many of the possessions seemed to be without designed plays, or broke down quickly. We often drove, and then when stopped went to a 2-man game on one side of the court where the ball never really moved. The 2-man game was being defended by 3 players; the two assigned, and a rotational helper. The offense died on those possessions.

As we repeated plays, KS started picking up on them, so the offense was degrading as the game went on. What happens with a little scouting?

The cuts were not crisp and the few that were were not rewarded. (Glass half full: At least some people were moving and trying to cut.)

The following while "PG" related, are on the team: No ball handler seemed be able to handle hard 1:1 pressure. (Playing against their equivalent of Sencire.) When the ball handler was under pressure, and thus not able to start the play, people just stood in their starting positions waiting, often 3-5s. When the ball handler got in trouble or picked up their dribble, help was very slow to arrive. There will be 5s calls unless this changes. There were multiple TOs or near TOs handling the ball outside of the 3pt arc. People were looking to initiate a play and forgetting to protect the ball. The team was lost when they held the ball until the last 10s of the clock. KS knew to sit on TSJ.

Free throws. If I'm the opposing coach, I'm going to play some variation of hack-an-illini, especially in the last 5 minutes. At least one of my lower rotation players is fouling out, possibly three or four.

My takeaway [pulling out my pipe and settling back into my overstuffed armchair]:

I suspect this team needs to be coached and play very differently than prior BU teams. This set of players should do very well given strong structure; they seem to have the "team" mentality to accept it. Imagine WI under Bo with athletes like these. I'd drill a set of offensive plays that emphasize cuts until they can do them in their sleep. Don't think. MOVE (Demetri).

I do not think this is a deep rotation team. There are 12 scholarship players. 3-5 of which are not ready (severe defensive liabilities). Another player is at best spot minutes.

Prediction: If the offense shifts to almost 100% designed plays, with heavy emphasis on cuttting, and clear fallbacks if the first play stalls, then team is likely 2nd/3rd in the BT and a 3-4 seed who makes the second weekend. [Hey, who splashed this orange !!!! on my glasses.] Otherwise they are 4th to 6th in the BT and anywhere from a 6-10 seed. Either way, I think it is "what seed" vs. "do we get an invite."

[Stepping down from the soap box. I'm not foolish enough to take off the protection.]

My next viewing is Marquette. I wish they never scheduled bottom 1/3rd teams (Sagarin rank 250+). We don't get useful reps or learning. Mistakes need to cost for people to learn. If anything, I think these games encourage bad habits.
Wow! We just beat the supposed #1 team in the nation and you’re dubbing us an 8-10 seed? Who hurt you, man?
 
#73      
Someone said there were no complaints, so I'll throw something out there. (Cup on. Helmet on. Asbestos on. Soapbox, on. Mouthing off.)

I watched the replay last night. While we won, I think that if the team play like this going forward they are an 8-10 seed, and don't make the second weekend.

The good:
The team seemed to be "a team". The around the horn play was beautiful. There should be multiple of those per half. The give/go from Goode on the break at the 3 pt line showed some thinking and team play.

Amani will be a player. Kudos to BU for giving him a few minutes to get his !!! kicked and learn why he isn't ready yet first hand. Harris makes me smile. TSJ is likely going in the 1st round.

The unknown:
Coleman was hard to evaluate. He got burned repeatedly. He was also playing center without any help defense support. There is only so much he could do. His shot looked better. His attitude looked good. He was certainly trying hard. He was staying calm, even when things went wrong or when he got hit hard. That is a great sign.

I kept mixing up QG and Domask mentally, so I have no idea which did what, when. (Such incompetence must invalidate everything else said, right?)

The bad:

Defense:
A steady stream of layups were given. Some were on well designed plays. Many were from a lack of help defense. It was nowhere to be seen. Dickenson looks really good in the 2nd half on the pick and roll plays. Multiple easy layups and lob finishes.

Harmon could not stay in front of his man. He couldn't (didn't) do it in Italy either.

General:
Luke had a horrible game. Cold shooting and defensive lapses. If both don't improve dramatically, I start to get worried about our rotation depth. A real shame since I was 60% sure he was going to be a starter for shooting and defense. I liked what I saw his freshman year.

Offense:
Many of the possessions seemed to be without designed plays, or broke down quickly. We often drove, and then when stopped went to a 2-man game on one side of the court where the ball never really moved. The 2-man game was being defended by 3 players; the two assigned, and a rotational helper. The offense died on those possessions.

As we repeated plays, KS started picking up on them, so the offense was degrading as the game went on. What happens with a little scouting?

The cuts were not crisp and the few that were were not rewarded. (Glass half full: At least some people were moving and trying to cut.)

The following while "PG" related, are on the team: No ball handler seemed be able to handle hard 1:1 pressure. (Playing against their equivalent of Sencire.) When the ball handler was under pressure, and thus not able to start the play, people just stood in their starting positions waiting, often 3-5s. When the ball handler got in trouble or picked up their dribble, help was very slow to arrive. There will be 5s calls unless this changes. There were multiple TOs or near TOs handling the ball outside of the 3pt arc. People were looking to initiate a play and forgetting to protect the ball. The team was lost when they held the ball until the last 10s of the clock. KS knew to sit on TSJ.

Free throws. If I'm the opposing coach, I'm going to play some variation of hack-an-illini, especially in the last 5 minutes. At least one of my lower rotation players is fouling out, possibly three or four.

My takeaway [pulling out my pipe and settling back into my overstuffed armchair]:

I suspect this team needs to be coached and play very differently than prior BU teams. This set of players should do very well given strong structure; they seem to have the "team" mentality to accept it. Imagine WI under Bo with athletes like these. I'd drill a set of offensive plays that emphasize cuts until they can do them in their sleep. Don't think. MOVE (Demetri).

I do not think this is a deep rotation team. There are 12 scholarship players. 3-5 of which are not ready (severe defensive liabilities). Another player is at best spot minutes.

Prediction: If the offense shifts to almost 100% designed plays, with heavy emphasis on cuttting, and clear fallbacks if the first play stalls, then team is likely 2nd/3rd in the BT and a 3-4 seed who makes the second weekend. [Hey, who splashed this orange !!!! on my glasses.] Otherwise they are 4th to 6th in the BT and anywhere from a 6-10 seed. Either way, I think it is "what seed" vs. "do we get an invite."

[Stepping down from the soap box. I'm not foolish enough to take off the protection.]

My next viewing is Marquette. I wish they never scheduled bottom 1/3rd teams (Sagarin rank 250+). We don't get useful reps or learning. Mistakes need to cost for people to learn. If anything, I think these games encourage bad habits.
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#74      
Someone said there were no complaints, so I'll throw something out there. (Cup on. Helmet on. Asbestos on. Soapbox, on. Mouthing off.)

I watched the replay last night. While we won, I think that if the team play like this going forward they are an 8-10 seed, and don't make the second weekend.

The good:
The team seemed to be "a team". The around the horn play was beautiful. There should be multiple of those per half. The give/go from Goode on the break at the 3 pt line showed some thinking and team play.

Amani will be a player. Kudos to BU for giving him a few minutes to get his !!! kicked and learn why he isn't ready yet first hand. Harris makes me smile. TSJ is likely going in the 1st round.

The unknown:
Coleman was hard to evaluate. He got burned repeatedly. He was also playing center without any help defense support. There is only so much he could do. His shot looked better. His attitude looked good. He was certainly trying hard. He was staying calm, even when things went wrong or when he got hit hard. That is a great sign.

I kept mixing up QG and Domask mentally, so I have no idea which did what, when. (Such incompetence must invalidate everything else said, right?)

The bad:

Defense:
A steady stream of layups were given. Some were on well designed plays. Many were from a lack of help defense. It was nowhere to be seen. Dickenson looks really good in the 2nd half on the pick and roll plays. Multiple easy layups and lob finishes.

Harmon could not stay in front of his man. He couldn't (didn't) do it in Italy either.

General:
Luke had a horrible game. Cold shooting and defensive lapses. If both don't improve dramatically, I start to get worried about our rotation depth. A real shame since I was 60% sure he was going to be a starter for shooting and defense. I liked what I saw his freshman year.

Offense:
Many of the possessions seemed to be without designed plays, or broke down quickly. We often drove, and then when stopped went to a 2-man game on one side of the court where the ball never really moved. The 2-man game was being defended by 3 players; the two assigned, and a rotational helper. The offense died on those possessions.

As we repeated plays, KS started picking up on them, so the offense was degrading as the game went on. What happens with a little scouting?

The cuts were not crisp and the few that were were not rewarded. (Glass half full: At least some people were moving and trying to cut.)

The following while "PG" related, are on the team: No ball handler seemed be able to handle hard 1:1 pressure. (Playing against their equivalent of Sencire.) When the ball handler was under pressure, and thus not able to start the play, people just stood in their starting positions waiting, often 3-5s. When the ball handler got in trouble or picked up their dribble, help was very slow to arrive. There will be 5s calls unless this changes. There were multiple TOs or near TOs handling the ball outside of the 3pt arc. People were looking to initiate a play and forgetting to protect the ball. The team was lost when they held the ball until the last 10s of the clock. KS knew to sit on TSJ.

Free throws. If I'm the opposing coach, I'm going to play some variation of hack-an-illini, especially in the last 5 minutes. At least one of my lower rotation players is fouling out, possibly three or four.

My takeaway [pulling out my pipe and settling back into my overstuffed armchair]:

I suspect this team needs to be coached and play very differently than prior BU teams. This set of players should do very well given strong structure; they seem to have the "team" mentality to accept it. Imagine WI under Bo with athletes like these. I'd drill a set of offensive plays that emphasize cuts until they can do them in their sleep. Don't think. MOVE (Demetri).

I do not think this is a deep rotation team. There are 12 scholarship players. 3-5 of which are not ready (severe defensive liabilities). Another player is at best spot minutes.

Prediction: If the offense shifts to almost 100% designed plays, with heavy emphasis on cuttting, and clear fallbacks if the first play stalls, then team is likely 2nd/3rd in the BT and a 3-4 seed who makes the second weekend. [Hey, who splashed this orange !!!! on my glasses.] Otherwise they are 4th to 6th in the BT and anywhere from a 6-10 seed. Either way, I think it is "what seed" vs. "do we get an invite."

[Stepping down from the soap box. I'm not foolish enough to take off the protection.]

My next viewing is Marquette. I wish they never scheduled bottom 1/3rd teams (Sagarin rank 250+). We don't get useful reps or learning. Mistakes need to cost for people to learn. If anything, I think these games encourage bad habits.
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Someone said there were no complaints, so I'll throw something out there. (Cup on. Helmet on. Asbestos on. Soapbox, on. Mouthing off.)

I watched the replay last night. While we won, I think that if the team play like this going forward they are an 8-10 seed, and don't make the second weekend.

The good:
The team seemed to be "a team". The around the horn play was beautiful. There should be multiple of those per half. The give/go from Goode on the break at the 3 pt line showed some thinking and team play.

Amani will be a player. Kudos to BU for giving him a few minutes to get his !!! kicked and learn why he isn't ready yet first hand. Harris makes me smile. TSJ is likely going in the 1st round.

The unknown:
Coleman was hard to evaluate. He got burned repeatedly. He was also playing center without any help defense support. There is only so much he could do. His shot looked better. His attitude looked good. He was certainly trying hard. He was staying calm, even when things went wrong or when he got hit hard. That is a great sign.

I kept mixing up QG and Domask mentally, so I have no idea which did what, when. (Such incompetence must invalidate everything else said, right?)

The bad:

Defense:
A steady stream of layups were given. Some were on well designed plays. Many were from a lack of help defense. It was nowhere to be seen. Dickenson looks really good in the 2nd half on the pick and roll plays. Multiple easy layups and lob finishes.

Harmon could not stay in front of his man. He couldn't (didn't) do it in Italy either.

General:
Luke had a horrible game. Cold shooting and defensive lapses. If both don't improve dramatically, I start to get worried about our rotation depth. A real shame since I was 60% sure he was going to be a starter for shooting and defense. I liked what I saw his freshman year.

Offense:
Many of the possessions seemed to be without designed plays, or broke down quickly. We often drove, and then when stopped went to a 2-man game on one side of the court where the ball never really moved. The 2-man game was being defended by 3 players; the two assigned, and a rotational helper. The offense died on those possessions.

As we repeated plays, KS started picking up on them, so the offense was degrading as the game went on. What happens with a little scouting?

The cuts were not crisp and the few that were were not rewarded. (Glass half full: At least some people were moving and trying to cut.)

The following while "PG" related, are on the team: No ball handler seemed be able to handle hard 1:1 pressure. (Playing against their equivalent of Sencire.) When the ball handler was under pressure, and thus not able to start the play, people just stood in their starting positions waiting, often 3-5s. When the ball handler got in trouble or picked up their dribble, help was very slow to arrive. There will be 5s calls unless this changes. There were multiple TOs or near TOs handling the ball outside of the 3pt arc. People were looking to initiate a play and forgetting to protect the ball. The team was lost when they held the ball until the last 10s of the clock. KS knew to sit on TSJ.

Free throws. If I'm the opposing coach, I'm going to play some variation of hack-an-illini, especially in the last 5 minutes. At least one of my lower rotation players is fouling out, possibly three or four.

My takeaway [pulling out my pipe and settling back into my overstuffed armchair]:

I suspect this team needs to be coached and play very differently than prior BU teams. This set of players should do very well given strong structure; they seem to have the "team" mentality to accept it. Imagine WI under Bo with athletes like these. I'd drill a set of offensive plays that emphasize cuts until they can do them in their sleep. Don't think. MOVE (Demetri).

I do not think this is a deep rotation team. There are 12 scholarship players. 3-5 of which are not ready (severe defensive liabilities). Another player is at best spot minutes.

Prediction: If the offense shifts to almost 100% designed plays, with heavy emphasis on cuttting, and clear fallbacks if the first play stalls, then team is likely 2nd/3rd in the BT and a 3-4 seed who makes the second weekend. [Hey, who splashed this orange !!!! on my glasses.] Otherwise they are 4th to 6th in the BT and anywhere from a 6-10 seed. Either way, I think it is "what seed" vs. "do we get an invite."

[Stepping down from the soap box. I'm not foolish enough to take off the protection.]

My next viewing is Marquette. I wish they never scheduled bottom 1/3rd teams (Sagarin rank 250+). We don't get useful reps or learning. Mistakes need to cost for people to learn. If anything, I think these games encourage bad habits.
Finding two good things (one of which being a freshman getting taken to school for 3 minutes) and 8 bad things in game where your team beat the #1 team in the country just screams nit picking.

Severe defensive labilities? Did you miss the part where Kansas is ranked #1? You aren't going to look great on defense against elite teams.

You gave more compliments to the losers.

You must always be thirsty since your glass is never half full.
 
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