Illini Basketball 2023-2024

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Will never forget this moment from Coleman postgame after the Arkansas loss. Thank you for coming back and getting the culture back on track. None of this happens without you. Every Day Guy For Life. 🧡💙
That last part is so true. Not to take anything away from Shannon, Goode, Ty or anyone else who came back, but … Hawkins is a bridge between the Frazier class AND he’s a key player. Immensely valuable.
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
Chills. The photo below has sat above my desk at work for the past two years.

Thank you CoHawk. Bring it home again, and bring it bigger baby.

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It’s for sure time for Coleman to go to the NBA. He would not gain anything from another year in college. He WILL get drafted and he WILL make an NBA roster. He looks very much like an NBA player with a lot of unique skills. He may not ever be a super star in the NBA but he for sure will be a very good player of the bench at a minimum.

On the other hand, if he continues to improve (which more than just about any player I have seen at Illinois) at the same rate he has year after year he could be a real star in the league. I will get roasted for saying this but I remember Magic coming out of school and he was not nearly as good a shooter as Coleman. Now Magic was only a sophomore, but his ability to handle the ball and guard any position was unique. In one finals he played center because Jabar was injured and the lakers won with a 6’9” center.

In no way am I saying Coleman is Magic, but he does have some similarities. He would need to continue to improve, but if I am an NBA team and I can draft a 6’10” player who can handle the ball, pass, is a very solid shooter, guards pretty much any position and just seems to keep getting better? I would really take a look at that. He is a very unique player.
 
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FWIW, I actually think there is almost no argument the BTN has a bias against Illinois ... in fact, I would argue we are actually as close to a "darling" of the BTN compared to anyone not named Michigan or OSU. Mike Hall and Howard Griffith are two of the most frequently featured BTN personalities, and Bruce Weber is now seemingly constantly on air. Add on to that the location of the studio in suburban Illinois (not a huge factor but doesn't exactly hurt us), and I have always felt the network ignores many other schools a lot more than us. This goes all the way back to 2007 Illini football literally getting The Journey all to itself in the first year of the network's history, whereas every year after was a conference-wide thing.
The studio is actually at the top of 600 W Chicago in the City in River North. The old mechanical room that housed the building's chillers when Montgomery Ward still occupied the building had 20+ feet ceiling heights which made its use as a studio a perfect fit.
 
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Chad Fleck

Eureka, IL
It’s for sure time for Coleman to go to the NBA. He would not gain anything from another year in college. He WILL get drafted and he WILL make an NBA roster. He looks very much like an NBA player with a lot of unique skills. He may not ever be a super star in the NBA but he for sure will be a very good player of the bench at a minimum.

On the other hand, if he continues to improve (which more than just about any player I have seen at Illinois) at the same rate he has year after year he could be a real star in the league. I will get roasted for saying this but I remember Magic coming out of school and he was not nearly as good a shooter as Coleman. Now Magic was only a sophomore, but his ability to handle the ball and guard any position was unique. In one finals he played center because Jabar was injured and the lakers won with a 6’9” center.

In no way am I saying Coleman is Magic, but he does have some similarities. He would need to continue to improve, but if I am an NBA team and I can draft a 6’10” player who can handle the ball, pass, is a very solid shooter, guards pretty much any position and just seems to keep getting better? I would really take a look at that. He is a very unique player.
In today's NIL environment, he could have something to gain.

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Pretty clear sign that he's transferring. Can't blame him. He doesn't get the COVID year but the class ahead of him does, and Underwood is likely to continue to be aggressive in courting super seniors so Goode does not have a guaranteed starting role in his last year of eligibility.

High character guy and good team player. Also impressive to finish a U of I business degree in three years with a basketball workload on top of it. He will do good things in life.
Wish he could defend. Not a knock but a sincere wish.
 
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danielb927

Orange Krush Class of 2013
Rochester, MN
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Thought it would be interesting to visually profile the "rating" versus "ranking" of D-I teams on offense and defense this year. This lets you quickly see how different two teams are (rating) based on their position in the world (ranking).

For example - you have to look about 25 teams down to get 10 points of offensive efficiency worse than the best team, but then about 125 teams beyond that to get another 10 points worse.

Also interesting: the spread across D-I is wider on offense than on defense.
- Across all of D-I, the range of ability is 38% wider on offense than on defense
- Neglecting the extremes (best/worst 50 teams for each), the range is still 23% wider on offense.

Also interesting to note the flat spots in the defensive ratings around 50th and again around 100th. It's just coincidence, but the latter is right where we live now. So even more than normal in the "mid-pack", tiny fluctuations in our AdjDE could cause us to rise or drop 5-10 spots.
 
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We played hard last night, the shots just did not fall like they did for Purdue. Good news: We are playing really solid basketball right now. This team has what it takes to go far in March
I agree, but man ... it just sucks we have come up just short in all of our biggest tests. I initially thought we at least got FAU in the bag, but they have really fallen apart. As I posted in the Bracketology thread, we have a winning record against teams currently projected in the Tournament ... but we are 0-3 vs. #1 seeds (Purdue x2 and Kentucky) and 0-1 vs. #2 seeds (Marquette). Those are the opponents we will play if we get past the Second Round - something identified by many as a sort of bare minimum expectation for a group this talented. While the Sweet Sixteen is the ultimate goal right now and therefore a clear success, it would be devastating to come up short of an Elite Eight run that was there for the taking because we just can't hit the late shots. TSJ, Coleman and Domask are starting down the end of their college careers ... let's hope one of them catches Deron Williams Fever and hits the huge shots we need this March!
 
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This year Coleman Hawkins 3PT% went up 10%, FT% up 20% from his averages, ~40% fewer TOs, in the conversations for B1G DPOY! He put in the work! I love what that shows for our culture.

All that to say, I think this is the kind of season the pro scouts were looking for from him.
 

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I agree, but man ... it just sucks we have come up just short in all of our biggest tests. I initially thought we at least got FAU in the bag, but they have really fallen apart. As I posted in the Bracketology thread, we have a winning record against teams currently projected in the Tournament ... but we are 0-3 vs. #1 seeds (Purdue x2 and Kentucky) and 0-1 vs. #2 seeds (Marquette). Those are the opponents we will play if we get past the Second Round - something identified by many as a sort of bare minimum expectation for a group this talented. While the Sweet Sixteen is the ultimate goal right now and therefore a clear success, it would be devastating to come up short of an Elite Eight run that was there for the taking because we just can't hit the late shots. TSJ, Coleman and Domask are starting down the end of their college careers ... let's hope one of them catches Deron Williams Fever and hits the huge shots we need this March!
They could make a run but half of field of 68 feels that the lack of a point guard will hurt us. Not that I care. I don't remember the guy's name but that has been his reason for his insistence that we will be defeated in the round of 32. Last night, the jerk has a Purdue hat on. Also, you must mean Tennessee. We have not played Kentucky YET.
 
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They could make a run but half of field of 68 feels that the lack of a point guard will hurt us. Not that I care. I don't remember the guy's name but that has been his reason for his insistence that we will be defeated in the round of 32. Last night, the jerk has a Purdue hat on. Also, you must mean Tennessee. We have not played Kentucky YET.
Yep, my mistake!
 
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