Illini Basketball 2024-2025

Status
Not open for further replies.
#76      
RockfordIllini
Biggest defensive takeaways for me are we need to work on long closeouts. And as others have noted we got bullied down low. I looked it up and 23 is 7’1 255 senior transfer out of Bucknell. Sans Toni we don’t have anyone who can match up with that.

But as others have said, lots of 1 v 1 contested shots. Our ball movement and shot quality looked miles ahead of Butler’s. And given how little this group has been together, that bodes well.
 
#83      
illiniguy24
Fly Illini Fly! said:
...Who are much less deserving of that "benefit of the doubt".
Click to expand...
Thats It Martin Short GIF by PBS SoCal
 
#88      
BretMyBeachHouse
ChiefGritty said:
It's all more or less guesswork, but if you gave me the choice between being #26 AP and #23 Kenpom in the preseason versus #17 AP and #39 Kenpom, I am taking the former all day long.
Click to expand...
Not me.

Ken pom is a formula. You can't cheat the formula. So your performance will reflect in the rankings.

AP is an opinion. So if you start low it might take a bit to overcome the perception.
 
#90      
jamarvelous31
BretMyBeachHouse said:
Not me.

Ken pom is a formula. You can't cheat the formula. So your performance will reflect in the rankings.

AP is an opinion. So if you start low it might take a bit to overcome the perception.
Click to expand...
Kenpom is based on opinion at the beginning of the year. How else do you systematically rate AdjD fors team that haven't played? Or the AdjO of a team whose lead guard is going to be a new foreign player?

Kenpom himself even says that he's .500 against the AP poll & that he defaults to the AP for preseason and his work during the season:

 
#92      
Captain Bubbles
If you watch the clips, you may see #22 which is Patrick McCaffery, one of Fran's sons. Connor McCaffery is an assistant coach for Butler.
 
#93      
AZILL
Actually, your initial wording was correct. Torvik/Kenpom preseason rankings ARE highly variable in their initial prognostications, that's an indisputable FACT. Lot of room for error in both as it's nearly impossible to rate the contributions that may be made by both Freshmen and International players.
 
#94      
FreshlySqueezed
#95      
AZILL
Oh you can definitely cheat the formula, but the opposite of what you are thinking. Add in a bunch of Freshmen and International players and you CHEAT the formula into thinking you won't be all that good....... amirite?
 
#98      
SkyysNotFalling
Well we were winning 49-45 with about 1:30 left in the first half. Butler ran up to a 21-14 start. Thinking our defense will be brutal, at least early on. But seems that we can still score the ball.
 
#99      
abchew2
the juiceman cometh said:
Has any team ever has the level of roster turnover we had this offseason and been ranked higher than the #26 ranking we essentially have? Just two returning players, one of whom averaged just 7 minutes per? This actually appears to be a high level of trust in our program from the national media.
Click to expand...
I have to imagine Kentucky has multiple times with how many one and done players they recruited some years.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back