Bigtex
- DFW
can you share the +/- I looked for it and couldn't find it
Illini Basketball 2024-2025
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This is from SportsReference. Also, I believe this is a per 100 possessions metric. So, it's not a raw +/- stat. Just FYI.
White +/- last night was +1 overall for the whole game.
From game log:
Came out (16:52) with the score 12-11 in favor of Alabama
At this point he had 2 pts 2 reb (1 off)
Came back in (13:11) with the score 23-17 in favor of Alabama
He then promptly got a defensive reb and made 2 more FT
Left the game (10:18) with the 29-19 in favor of Alabama
Alabama then scored 7 more unanswered points while White sat on the bench
Came back in (9:00) with score 36-19, blocked a shot, grabbed another reb
Then came out (6:37) with the score 38-26 Alabama
Came back in (5:37) score 40-26 Alabama, grabbed another off reb
Came back out (4:40) score 43-26 Alabama
Then, score 52-38 to start the 2nd half
Goes out (17:48) with score 57-45
Came back in (16:19) score 63-48, makes a layup
Comes back out (12:57) score 71-55
Came back in (7:29) score 80-65
Comes back out (6:03) score 84-70
You think Carey Booth was a -22 in the 3 mins he played? Take a closer look at the statistic you are referencing.
EDIT: It's a per possession metric like you said, but there are other nuances with it. Raw +/- White was +1 in a game we lost by 13 points.
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blackdog
- Champaign
The problem is the things he does that people don't like are very visible even though he does a lot well. The occasional possession where he goes 1v1 overshadow when he makes a nice cut or attacks the glass. The possession of getting lost and giving up a 3 overshadow getting a block at the rim on a big guy or snagging a contested rebound. Basically he makes mistakes that are visible and end up hurting the team but they are all fixable things and he has the ability to do a lot of good too.
You were more industrious than me. I only looked to see start of game to refute a post saying Riley should start because the beginning of the game when Tre was in set he tone.
I’d like to see Tre pick it up some. Was hoping for a little more from him, but don’t understand the Tre bashing. He’s like everyone else on team, trying to figure how to play together. And the Tre vs Ty thing is just silly. Ty chose to redshirt. By the early distribution of minutes, it seems he made right call.
You should take a closer look at the stats you're referencing
You should take a closer look at the stats you're referencing
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Ryllini
- Lombard
I'm going gambling more towards point shaving. This is more widespread than just Temple being investigated. We shall see.
LarryGotFouled
- Allen, TX
I don't know. Perhaps Ty might reconsider. He would bring toughness and rebounding that we need. Not sure Tre is providing such shooting as to be more valuable than that.
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
Total shot in the dark, but I'm guessing it has something to do with money.
Ryllini
- Lombard
Case closed
Why would Ty reconsider? What has changed? All the same players are there. Riley is going to devour the lion’s share of minutes. He’d have to share leftover minutes with Tre. Seemingly that wasn’t enough heading into season, so why would it be now? BU wouldn’t glue Tre to the bench and give all those minutes to Ty.
I don't think your numbers are correct. I have White at -9 for the game.
Here's one error that led to the discrepancy. I stopped auditing after the first one.
You said: (Tre White) Came back in (13:11) with the score 23-17 in favor of Alabama
The gamelog I see says this:
Yes, looks like one mistake.
He was -1 then
-9? Share how you came up with that then
FWIW I think Ty could help us more at the 4 than at the 3. You're correct that Will and Tre will likely add up to 40 mpg at the 3.
But it's likely not relevant as he apparently wants to RS to get an extra year of NIL earnings (like Sencire did last year).
No, there are surely more than that. I just quit looking after the first one. You can check your own work. I checked mine and came up with the same number multiple times. -9.
Yes, looks like one mistake.
He was -1 then
-9? Share how you came up with that then
Meanwhile playing bad defense and taking some very selfish shots.
Had the least # of shot attempts of anyone who played 10 or more minutes
The DRtg wasn't great for any of our guys, but he did have a nice block
Yes i agree about the number of shots. However the shots he took were very selfish and forced them. Had kj wide open on one for sure. The one he got called for the travel i believe. Also had one more that was very forced. Knew he was going to shoot it as soon as he got it. It's not the number of his shots. It's the quality of his shot.
Love the part where DGL is speaking up here
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