Illini Basketball 2024-2025

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the juiceman cometh said:
Never underestimate the Mike Woodson factor. Just hope he can go on enough of a run here to get at least one more year (looking pretty doubtful anything saves his job at this point though).
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While he's not a particularly good coach, it goes beyond him. They just don't have a good mix of talent. The whole is way less than the sum of the parts.
 
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Emerson Bigguns
Combo said:
Sure. It's up to him to recruit the right mix.
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Their effort the other night was…lacking. It’s what happens when a bunch of mercenaries know they are losing the war.
We played pretty far from perfect, but overwhelmed them. I’m not sure which team it speaks more about…
Woodson is

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#82      
SkyysNotFalling
Doubtful. All of Woody’s buddies are the ones who decide if he’s the coach still or not. Hes got a longggggg leash. Expect him back next year
 
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Mobi
MDchicago said:
Good list to find your team on ...

Illini currently 20th on KenPom offense and 9th on defense. At this point last season, last year's Elite 8 Illini were 10th on KP offense (ended season 3rd) and 34th on defense (beginning of long slide to 80th on defense). Think this team has a higher ceiling and could beat anyone on a given night, but will we have consistency to do it for six straight against top level opponents? Not likely, but love that there is a plausible opportunity.

Duke and Iowa State are the only two teams in the KP top 10 on each (top 4 in Duke's case) at present. MSG game with Duke will be a great test heading into the final stretch.

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We are a 3pt shooting team with so so 3p% (32% as a team). This really limits our offense efficiency. Out of all the players, Boswell has the best chances to resurrect his 3p% and I think he will. Assuming KJ, Ivisic, and Hum keeps it up, that might be good enough. I am not sure if Riley will truly turn around but I do hope DGL can improve his stroke.
 
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the juiceman cometh
Mobi said:
We are a 3pt shooting team with so so 3p% (32% as a team). This really limits our offense efficiency. Out of all the players, Boswell has the best chances to resurrect his 3p% and I think he will. Assuming KJ, Ivisic, and Hum keeps it up, that might be good enough. I am not sure if Riley will truly turn around but I do hope DGL can improve his stroke.
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Have to imagine Bowell finds his stroke at some point. He was a 37% 3pt shooter last season and is at 27% so far this year. Jake Davis also shot higher last season at Mercer (38%) on much higher volume so I could see his improving, but with his limited minutes and shots taken it might not have a huge impact. DGL shot 22% last season so his 28% so far is an improvement already. Might just need to pass up the shot more and look to drive (he's attempting 3.5 3s a game - probably too much for a sub-30% shooter).
 
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I-L-L 1318
Mobi said:
We are a 3pt shooting team with so so 3p% (32% as a team). This really limits our offense efficiency. Out of all the players, Boswell has the best chances to resurrect his 3p% and I think he will. Assuming KJ, Ivisic, and Hum keeps it up, that might be good enough. I am not sure if Riley will truly turn around but I do hope DGL can improve his stroke.
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At times, it looks to me like our best offense is to chuck a 3 and go get if it misses. 3s tend to be offensively rebounded at a higher rate.

DGL shot it better v the loosiers...though he plays better with a chip on his shoulder.
 
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BWA
Brosky said:
DGL has become a real asset on both ends. His athleticism is off the charts and that helps.
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Imagine if he was like 6 inches taller. He would be a monster.
 
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RollChief
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FreshlySqueezed
Mobi said:
We are a 3pt shooting team with so so 3p% (32% as a team). This really limits our offense efficiency. Out of all the players, Boswell has the best chances to resurrect his 3p% and I think he will. Assuming KJ, Ivisic, and Hum keeps it up, that might be good enough. I am not sure if Riley will truly turn around but I do hope DGL can improve his stroke.
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I get what you're saying here, but the bolded statement can be taken much more negatively than it should be.

Our current adjusted offensive efficiency is 119.3 points per 100 possessions. The only two Illini teams since 1997 (KenPom era) that were more efficient than that were 2005 and last season.

The offense is designed to get us easy looks inside, to get to the line and allows for more offensive rebounds so even at 32%, we are incredibly efficient because of what the threat of shooting 3s opens up for the offense.
 
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the juiceman cometh
RollChief said:
I wonder what the logic is having Big Z 12 spots ahead of Tomi.
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Probably because Big Z is a more efficient 3pt shooter (43% vs. 37%) and a better rim protector (1.8 blks per game vs. 1.2, despite Tomi playing 10 more minutes a game). Those skills are key for what NBA teams will want with a prospect like either of these guys. The skills Z is better at are just more valued at the moment by NBA teams than the skills Tomi is better at (rebounding, interior offense - traditional big man stuff).
 
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NarrowJ
FreshlySqueezed said:
I get what you're saying here, but the bolded statement can be taken much more negatively than it should be.

Our current adjusted offensive efficiency is 119.3 points per 100 possessions. The only two Illini teams since 1997 (KenPom era) that were more efficient than that were 2005 and last season.

The offense is designed to get us easy looks inside, to get to the line and allows for more offensive rebounds so even at 32%, we are incredibly efficient because of what the threat of shooting 3s opens up for the offense.
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I also think we have some guys shooting volume 3s that are better than their percentages this season.

Kylan is a proven upper 30s percentage 3 point shooter across 2 previous college seasons. DGL and Riley both have better shooting ability than their .283 and .315 percentages show. DGL shot nearly 40% on like 8 attempts per game in a league full of future NBA players prior to Illinois and I think we've seen what Riley can do from outside when he's feeling confident. I feel like some better shot selection would help Kylan & DGL and in Will's case he just needs to get out of his own head, maybe learn how to calm the nerves.
 
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Mobi
FreshlySqueezed said:
I get what you're saying here, but the bolded statement can be taken much more negatively than it should be.

Our current adjusted offensive efficiency is 119.3 points per 100 possessions. The only two Illini teams since 1997 (KenPom era) that were more efficient than that were 2005 and last season.

The offense is designed to get us easy looks inside, to get to the line and allows for more offensive rebounds so even at 32%, we are incredibly efficient because of what the threat of shooting 3s opens up for the offense.
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I don't disagree with you but I want a top ten offense efficiency and national championship. Also, I think our strong offense rebounding helps the efficiency and I am not completely sure if the rebounds are more due to the scheme or the personnel.
 
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