Illini Basketball 2024-2025

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That's a high bar -TSJ is/was NBA level athletic. I think WR made a ton of progress in his year here in every respect --strength, skill, mentality, etc. I could see him developing into a pretty high level player at the next level, even if his raw athleticism is a notch below TSJs. WR is VERY skilled.

TSJ is a plus athlete even by NBA standards too. Pretty rare air to match him.
 
#228      
It's legit and next year will be the year to get them because they will be down.
Let's get a top team next year, and get everyone back. I am assuming the home/away with Tennessee is done. I'd like to see BU schedule another home/away with another SEC team. Alabama in Chicago, Missouri in St. Louis and either Tennessee or Florida in Knox/Gainesville.
 
#230      
Couple of things-
Let's stop with the Kasparas hate. He was very bad the last month for the most part, but overall he had an awesome freshman season. He will do great things at the next level.

Shout out to Kylan Boswell and Tomi Ivisic. Those two are going to be awesome next year, and were our two best players in this tournament overall.
KJ is more frustrating than bad to me. Did the injury really affect him that much at the end of the season?
 
#231      
Let's get a top team next year, and get everyone back. I am assuming the home/away with Tennessee is done. I'd like to see BU schedule another home/away with another SEC team. Alabama in Chicago, Missouri in St. Louis and either Tennessee or Florida in Knox/Gainesville.
I'd personally prefer a team from the Big East or the Big 12 just to balance out the big conferences. If I were scheduling, I'd like to explore some of the following options.

Big East
Villanova, Creighton or St. John's - straight home and home
UConn - Four year with two on-campus, one at MSG, and one at the United Center

Big 12
Kansas - straight home and home or four-year with Kansas City and Chicago
Iowa State - Same as Kansas, including Kansas City (I don't think Iowa State would play in Des Moines unless it's their once-annual in-state school event with Iowa, Drake, and Northern Iowa)
Texas Tech - Straight home and home
BYU - Straight home and home

I still think you either have to look at Marquette as an annual game at the United Center or do some sort of four-year rotation with a big name opponent for the United Center. Personally, I still want one big non-conference game in Champaign each season. The game has to be big enough to get 18-20K into the United Center. I think Alabama will do that for next year without much trouble. I don't like having to schedule a two-year agreement with a school where they get a home game and we play at the United Center (i.e. Duke). Ideally, there would always be a "road neutral" game like we had with Alabama this season. In this day and age of quad rankings, I would imagine more programs would be willing to do that to increase their chances at Quad 1 games in "neutral" sites. For example, a Florida game in Orlando or Tampa in exchange for a UC game against Florida would be a really good series.
 
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#232      
I’ve posted this on IllInq YouTube channel, but to me, KJ is like a a pitcher who pitches a no-hitter but gave up 10 walks along the way.
 
#233      
Now that the season is over, do any of the insiders have info on things that went on during the season, like the extent and reason for KJ's injury, the illnesses impact, etc?
 
#234      
KJ is more frustrating than bad to me. Did the injury really affect him that much at the end of the season?
I did hear that the inside story is that the injury did contribute to his reduced control/strength and increase in turnovers.
 
#235      
We still don't know what happened w/Dee, all the details about Chester's departure, Skyy's separation from the team, and on and on. The best you're going to get are some not so thinly veiled hints or references that we will be left to decode on our own.
 
#236      
I'd personally prefer a team from the Big East or the Big 12 just to balance out the big conferences. If I were scheduling, I'd like to explore some of the following options.

Big East
Villanova, Creighton or St. John's - straight home and home
UConn - Four year with two on-campus, one at MSG, and one at the United Center

Big 12
Kansas - straight home and home or four-year with Kansas City and Chicago
Iowa State - Same as Kansas, including Kansas City (I don't think Iowa State would play in Des Moines unless it's their once-annual in-state school event with Iowa, Drake, and Northern Iowa)
Texas Tech - Straight home and home
BYU - Straight home and home

I still think you either have to look at Marquette as an annual game at the United Center or do some sort of four-year rotation with a big name opponent for the United Center. Personally, I still want one big non-conference game in Champaign each season. The game has to be big enough to get 18-20K into the United Center. I think Alabama will do that for next year without much trouble. I don't like having to schedule a two-year agreement with a school where they get a home game and we play at the United Center (i.e. Duke). Ideally, there would always be a "road neutral" game like we had with Alabama this season. In this day and age of quad rankings, I would imagine more programs would be willing to do that to increase their chances at Quad 1 games in "neutral" sites. For example, a Florida game in Orlando or Tampa in exchange for a UC game against Florida would be a really good series.
I'd be fine with UConn, Marquette, or Creighton but don't think there's been enough consistency from the rest of the Big East to feel comfortable scheduling for multiple years. Villanova/St John's need to be good for a few years to want them on the schedule. The objective of non-con scheduling should be to face teams that either winning moves us up or losing doesn't move us down.
 
#237      
I'd personally prefer a team from the Big East or the Big 12 just to balance out the big conferences. If I were scheduling, I'd like to explore some of the following options.

Big East
Villanova, Creighton or St. John's - straight home and home
UConn - Four year with two on-campus, one at MSG, and one at the United Center

Big 12
Kansas - straight home and home or four-year with Kansas City and Chicago
Iowa State - Same as Kansas, including Kansas City (I don't think Iowa State would play in Des Moines unless it's their once-annual in-state school event with Iowa, Drake, and Northern Iowa)
Texas Tech - Straight home and home
BYU - Straight home and home

I still think you either have to look at Marquette as an annual game at the United Center or do some sort of four-year rotation with a big name opponent for the United Center. Personally, I still want one big non-conference game in Champaign each season. The game has to be big enough to get 18-20K into the United Center. I think Alabama will do that for next year without much trouble. I don't like having to schedule a two-year agreement with a school where they get a home game and we play at the United Center (i.e. Duke). Ideally, there would always be a "road neutral" game like we had with Alabama this season. In this day and age of quad rankings, I would imagine more programs would be willing to do that to increase their chances at Quad 1 games in "neutral" sites. For example, a Florida game in Orlando or Tampa in exchange for a UC game against Florida would be a really good series.
I'm on board. This is great! Marquette would be a great yearly opponent.

I personally prefer Kansas. We have Missouri in St. Louis, then Kansas one year in Chicago then the next in Kansas City.
 
#239      
So why did KJ turn the ball over so much before the injury?
KJ turned the ball over too much. Still had the highest win share of any Illini freshman ever though. It’s wild that KJ just had the best Illini freshman season we’ve ever seen, yet many fans talk about him as if he wasn’t any good.

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#241      
KJ turned the ball over too much. Still had the highest win share of any Illini freshman ever though. It’s wild that KJ just had the best Illini freshman season we’ve ever seen, yet many fans talk about him as if he wasn’t any good.

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how is that measured? Was WinShare a thing back during the Brown/Williams years, or was it retroactively attributed by using game film/stats?
 
#242      
All that may be true. I was just asking why he turned the ball over so much before his injury too. Never said he was not a good player.

Well you can go do the math yourself, he averaged more TOVs after the injury, it's not really close.

Anyway, you take an 18 year and make them the engine of a power conf college team, they are gonna turn it over a lot. Demin is another freshman PG, had virtually same turnover rate without the whole injury part.

Edit: For S&G, KJ had a lower TOV rate this season than RayJ Dennis did as a senior at Baylor... so perspective, I guess
 
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#245      
He was always a high TO player, no one's claiming it was always gonna be 1-2 a game .... it's just it got drastically worse after the injury.

The shooting also took a pretty hefty hit (free throws included).

And he was driving left and finishing left a lot before the injury but that all went away afterwards. I can't even remeber a single time he finished with his left hand after coming back. He was basically gutting it out playing with one hand for half the season when it probably would have been in his best interest to shut it down.
 
#246      
KJ turned the ball over too much. Still had the highest win share of any Illini freshman ever though. It’s wild that KJ just had the best Illini freshman season we’ve ever seen, yet many fans talk about him as if he wasn’t any good.

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One note: Frank Williams didn’t play his freshman year. I have no idea how or if that’s factored in.
 
#247      
One note: Frank Williams didn’t play his freshman year. I have no idea how or if that’s factored in.
I believe they’re just using the first season he played as his freshman season:


Kasparas had a better eFG% and averaged more points, assists, and rebounds as a freshman than Frank Williams averaged over his career:


Sad so many fans didn’t get to enjoy his play this year.
 
#248      
One note: Frank Williams didn’t play his freshman year. I have no idea how or if that’s factored in.
Yeah, not to take away from the original point (it still stands), but the only of these players who had similar circumstances to KJ his freshman year was Ayo (you could maybe argue Trent). No one else was really asked to come in and shoulder the load that KJ was right off the bat... which may make his season all the more impressive.
 
#250      
Yeah, not to take away from the original point (it still stands), but the only of these players who had similar circumstances to KJ his freshman year was Ayo (you could maybe argue Trent). No one else was really asked to come in and shoulder the load that KJ was right off the bat... which may make his season all the more impressive.
And KJ still had a much better freshman season than Ayo.

KJ:

eFG%: 51.9%
Points: 15.0
Rebounds: 5.7
Assists: 4.7

Ayo:

eFG%: 50.1%
Points: 13.8
Rebounds: 4.0
Assists: 3.3
 
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