Joel Goodson
- how was I to know, she was with the Russians too?
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Those highlights look like a Will Riley clone.
How do you mean? At what? Their respective games/present skill sets are very different from one another. I’m not saying you’re wrong. I just don’t know how you would define “better.”
One guy’s strong suit is shooting and passing and operating in screen androll/and pop…doing most of his damage facing the basket.
The other guy…whether he knows it or not is more that of a traditional BIG; that rebounds like he’s on fire.
Z’s obviously the kind of long range bomber that Morez wishes he was. So there’s that.
(Defensively they’ve both got more issues than a current events mag.)
This is all just my interpretation of present level of performance; of course.
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Based on overall stats last year… Morez and big Z played about the same minutes per game….I think Big Z had a slightly better composition of overall stats. If Morez can shoot some mid range jumpers and put the ball on the floor he becomes less than a one dimensional paint guy. I lean a little on the Big Z side for now. Especially at 259-260 lbs.
So here's the numbers: per 25 minutes Morez averaged 9.9 points, 9.5 rebounds, 1.5 blocks.
Zvonimir - 11.1 points, 5.6 rebounds, 2.5 blocks.
Lets look at the entire year! 17-18 minutes!
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They did not play the same # of minutes. That makes a huge difference when it comes to the stats; as the OP pointed out he averaged a DD per 25. If you had the choice, there's little to no reason to pick Z over Rez.
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I want to applaud Coach Tyler Underwood as the lead recruiter in the recruiting of Keaton Wagler. Great job to you and all the staff in recruiting and locating the talent that comes to our school.
Wagler possesses traits valued by our coaching staff, such as positional size, shooting ability, and a strong work ethic. He will need time to adjust to the B1G and collegiate level but word is that he has impressed all the staff and coaches with his feel for the game, his shooting and his passing abilities in the summer workouts.
Great job Tyler.
pruman91
- interviewing new NL's daily....I really really am
I hope Mr. Wagler gets a ton of minutes on the court this season as that means he is as good or better than the hype so far and that our team is playing exceptionally well and having a great W-L record........Let the cream come to the top and play the players that bring us the best chance for success.........jmho.....................
Unless you also look at shooting/floor spacing and free throws.
Bigtex
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Can it or should it be said - Big Z can/will be better than Morez in the Underwood system?
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Illinois returns to The Garden in a Black Friday showdown versus UConn.
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OH BOY!
Illinois Returns to Madison Square Garden to Face UConn on Nov. 28 - University of Illinois Athletics
Illinois returns to The Garden in a Black Friday showdown versus UConn.
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Big Z is a better scorer and worse rebounder. What really matters for us is who defenses better at 4.
Illini fan Atlanta
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that big dawg BITESWashington has really improved that much? They were awful last year.
Washington pulled a ton in the portal - Lathan Sommerville (Rutgers), Wes Yates & Desmond Claude (USC), and then Quimari Peterson and Jacob Ognacevic will be solid for them as well. Bryson Tucker (Indiana) and Christian Nitu (Florida St) are also somewhat promising. The only returner, Zoom Diallo, could be very good depending on the development there.
Have to see, but they're setup pretty well with an extremely talented guard trio and an experienced starting frontcourt.
The teams we play twice are ranked 13, 15, and 16. Surely we won't lose to them this year, right?
Last season - Florida lost to Georgia, Houston lost to SD State, Duke lost to Clemson, Alabama lost to Vanderbilt, MSU lost to Indiana & USC, Texas Tech lost to Saint Joseph's, UCF and TCU, Maryland lost to Washington and Northwestern, Michigan lost to Wake Forest and Minnesota.
Those are just the top 10 teams from last year. I didn't go on down the AP poll any further than that, but I think we should probably anticipate dropping a game or maybe even two that we don't expect. It just happens.
That being said, the bottom half of these power confs this year are pretty bad. We might be safe, you never know.
We will be up 12 on Maryland in the second half only to lose in the final seconds. Sorry, I don't make the rules.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
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It’s Black Friday, so can we get a doorbuster deal-with Hurley’s face busting the door?OH BOY!
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Surely we won't lose to Maryland twice? Id almost expect to go 3-3 in a beat case scenario with how poorly the Illini have played against Maryland(maybe it's different with Willard gone but Buzz is a good coach), Northwestern always seems to steal one lately, and Hoiberg baffles our defense.
Clemson went 27-7 and was 18-2 in the ACC last year(got a 5 seed). They just happened to play one of the worst halves of basketball I've ever seen to start against mcneese before scoring 54 pts and nearly winning in the 2nd half.
SDSU, Vanderbilt, and Georgia were all tournament teams.
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Yes, Clemson, ahh.
The other 3 all tournament teams, but not games that they should have lost. Vandy and Georgia both finished a few games under .500 in conf play and SD State got blown out by 30 in a play in game.
I mentioned like 9 or 10 other teams in there in addition to those. Anyway, it’s all valid to my point which was simply that you’re unlikely to go undefeated against teams you should beat.
Yes, Clemson, ahh.
The other 3 all tournament teams, but not games that they should have lost. Vandy and Georgia both finished a few games under .500 in conf play and SD State got blown out by 30 in a play in game.
I mentioned like 9 or 10 other teams in there in addition to those. Anyway, it’s all valid to my point which was simply that you’re unlikely to go undefeated against teams you should beat.
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